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Secretariat's ancestry edit

Was Secretariat (horse), who won the United States Triple Crown of Thoroughbred Racing in 1973 with times which have not been bettered so far, a descendant of Godolphin Arabian, Darley Arabian, and/or Byerley Turk, three 18th century horses said to be the "founders of the modern Thoroughbred horse racing bloodstock?" Edison (talk) 03:30, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All three, multiple times over. See the pedigree here and trace it back to the 1700s: [[1]]. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 04:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"All modern Thoroughbreds can trace their pedigrees to three stallions..." It is basically part of the definition of Thoroughbred. Rmhermen (talk) 16:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! It is gratifying to search back to the mid 1700's and find the Godollphin Arabian, as a multiple-line ancestor of Secretariat. I gave a book report in 6th grade on "King of the Wind" by Henry, about the Godolphin Arabian, and it just occurred to me to check whether he was an ancestor of Secretariat. Lots of inbreeding. Do genetic ailments due to recessive traits show up in "thoroughbreds" more than in random lines of horses? Edison (talk) 00:51, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and it's been getting worse just in the past few decades. 70.59.11.32 (talk) 09:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

finding a person edit

reading about ALDERSHOT ARMY BASE did not help me. I hoped to find some one like "President of Mess Comitee (P.M.C.)" like the those that I met in the RAF years ago but I did not realise the gigentic size of that "Army Home". I need info` concerning miss JANE ROTMAM from Palestine that had been "married in Aldershot to an officer" she met while he served in Palestine. That took place in [or arround] 1933 and the offier`s name was CALLINCE [spelling is not sure!]. Persuming the marrige was registered in an officer`s mess diary [or a church?], Would you be kind to direct me where to aim my very-poor-informed question? {Lt. Col. Ret. R. Melamed, (Address removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.125.157.123 (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your address details, since it's not a good idea for these to be on display. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 12:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You would be better to direct your query to someone at the National Archives, who are specialists in researching military events. This guide might help you prepare your question better. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW none of the girls with a first name Jane married in Farnham or Aldershot in the 1930s have a surname that resembles Rotmam or married somebody with a surname that resembles Callince. The nearest I can find is a Henry Collins and a Joan Rotman in Bath in 1937. MilborneOne (talk) 13:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]