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English IPA for this?

What would be the IPA in English for the name Amala Ratna Zandile Dlamini also known as Doja Cat 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 15:19, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Are there any clips out there where her name is pronounced? Takes the guesswork out. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

There are a few videos on how to pronounce this name,^[1][2] without supplying evidence supporting the claim that this is the correct pronunciation. They have "Amalaratna" in one word. In any case, what I hear is something like /ˌɑ.mɑ.lɑˈɹɑt.nɑ zɑnˈdi.li dlɑˈmi.ni/. The speaker in the second video has an accent and lengthens some vowels, which I have not attempted to notate.  --Lambiam 09:01, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Zulu orthography is here. In Zulu the second-to-last syllable is stressed. That will create at worst a respectable guess at the person's own style of pronunciation. 93.136.103.194 (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

The stresses in my IPA attempt above agree with that rule. I see that the ‹a› is a front vowel in Zulu phonology and the ‹r› is a trill, but most English speakers cannot produce these phonemes.  --Lambiam 09:00, 27 July 2020 (UTC)