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May 20

Blood preposition

I'm looking for word that means "from the blood" or "in the blood". I think it'd be a preposition, but I'm not good with parts of speech, so I'll just give ya the context. "Measured various [word] physiological markers". I'm looking for a word like "blood-borne", but that's got disease connotations, I keep coming back to "bloodal" but that isn't a word and it probably wouldn't even mean what I want it to if it was a word. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Aaadddaaammm 00:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

"sanguin-" (as in exsanguinate - to bleed out)). phlebo- is used sometimes (it really means "vein"). --TotoBaggins 01:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

"hematological" is probably the adjective you want, though it depends on the specific test (certain blood tests might be called "serological" or "immunological" even though they test blood, with "hematological" being reserved for tests of the formed elements of blood (white blood cells, red blood cells, platelets). So you may want serum markers. You may want to ask here about the specific test you have in mind, or look at reference ranges for common blood tests. - Nunh-huh 01:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Hematic, or, even shorter but less common (and less in line with its Greek origin), hemic. Example: no difference between hypothermic and normothermic CPB was found for any of the measured hematic markers of activation of the ...[1]  --Lambiam^Talk 07:49, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Neither hemic or hematic is a word to use if you want to sound as if you are familiar with the subject you're talking about. "Hematologic" is the standard word. - Nunh-huh 07:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

May we conclude that the people using such terminology[2] sound as if they don't know what they are talking about?  --Lambiam^Talk 12:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

What we may conclude is that many of the Googled examples use the word to mean something other than what was asked for, and that hematologic is used 585,000 times vs 19,500 for hematic and hemic combined: in short, that hematologic is the word desired. - Nunh-huh 12:23, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Whatever the word is, it is surely an adjective, not a preposition. --LarryMac | Talk 13:31, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, exactly as I said. - Nunh-huh 13:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

job/name coincidence

There is, I believe, a term that describes an individual who has a name that is coincident with their job, but I can't for the life of me remember what it is. For example, if Steve Baker was a baker (rather than a programmer), or less strictly, Arsene Wenger being the manager of Arsenal F.C.. Anyone know? Rockpocket 08:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

The only thing I could come up with is "nomen est omen". And here's a famous one. ---Sluzzelin talk 09:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Aptonym and aptronym have been used for this phenomenon. - Nunh-huh 10:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Nominative determinism --Estrellador* 14:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

• At which point I must mention my erstwhile dentist's name, Dr. Les Plack. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 17:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

See also the "Nomenclature is destiny" list here. --Anonymous, May 20'07, 18:00 (UTC).

Thank you all, nominative determinism was the term I was thinking of. Rockpocket 19:16, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a proctologist named Anil Gupta and were a pair of dentists named Paler & Weaker. StuRat 22:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I personally met a urologist named Dr. Siemens. --TotoBaggins 01:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

• Tony Dobbin the jockeyhotclaws 09:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Other good ones are John Tory, leader of the Ontario Progressive Conservative, or "Tory," Party; retired racecar driver Lake Speed; and former NFL running back Ben Gay. -- Mwalcoff 15:34, 21 May 2007 (UTC)