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Should I take a swipe at creating a Swipe article ?

Should the Indian Mobile manufacturing company

Swipe Mobile/

not be added to the list of List of mobile phone makers by country? And off course a page for the same company be added to wikipedia?--आशीष भटनागर (talk) 09:40, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

I created a title for you. StuRat (talk) 16:46, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

The guiding principle for creating Wikipedia articles is Notability. Just because something "exists" is not really enough reason to create a Wikipedia article. Having said that, nothing is stopping you from taking the initiative and creating the article yourself if you feel the subject is notable enough. Vespine (talk) 23:01, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Computer shutting down for no apparent reason

Hi, my computer has been shutting itself off suddenly for no apparent reason. I thought it was the battery, because that has reached the end of its useful lifespan, but I removed that, and I now run the computer without the battery. It is roughly the same. Does this mean the problem is unrelated to battery/power issues? If you run a laptop without the battery, is it expected that it will power off suddenly, for example, due to some unrealiable part of the power source?

I have also lifted the back off, and attempted to clean the fan, but it doesn't seem to be getting very hot at all, and the computer is not sitting directly on anything. Earlier this year, I used to have the computer sitting on my pillow, and it used to get very hot, but I don't do this now.

I'm wondering, if it is more or less deliberate by the computer, that it is choosing to switch itself off, does it leave a log file, just quickly announcing its reason for doing so? Thanks, IBE (talk) 17:32, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

@IBE Is this a Windows 7+ PC? If so, can you run the following in PowerShell? Get-EventLog System | Where-Object {$_.EventID -eq "1074" -or $_.EventID -eq "6008" -or $_.EventID -eq "1076"} | ft Machinename, TimeWritten, UserName, EventID, Message -AutoSize -Wrap Alternatively you can look for event IDs 1074, 6008 or 1076 in the Event Viewer. This may give some indication as to why it is shutting down (process requesting shutdown etc) -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 17:37, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't eliminate overheating based solely on it not seeming to be hot. In fact, if the fans, heat sinks, etc., aren't working, the heat could be concentrated in a very small area, such as the motherboard, while the rest stays relatively cool. I would point a big box fan at the innards, with the cover off, and see if that makes a difference. If so, then it does seem like overheating is the issue, and you can investigate further to determine exactly why it is overheating. Also, it may not be overheating at all, but may just think that it is, due to a faulty thermal sensor.

An unrelated possibility is that a wire or connection is loose somewhere, not necessarily in the power supply system, and occasionally breaks contact. StuRat (talk) 17:40, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Does it take the same about of time to shutdown from cold (not being used for 1 hr or more)? And shuts down quick if restarted immediately after shutting down? If so, then thermal issues are likely to blame. However, Samtar's instructions will indicate what triggered the shutdown. LongHairedFop (talk) 19:31, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

I had similar problem with Win7 -- it turned out to be related to automatic updates and the fact that Win7 is no longer supported. The problem was fixed when I turned off auto updates. (See instructions here:[1]). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:0:0:0:3 (talk) 18:27, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

This is incorrect. Windows 7 is under extended support until 2020 at the earliest. What was likely happening was you had Windows Update configured to automatically install updates and restart after updates that require a restart. --47.138.165.200 (talk) 02:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

The computer shouldn't turn off though. It should restart, and it will end up back in Windows after updates are complete. (Maybe the logon screen if you don't have automatic logon set-up.) If your computer is setup to automatically turn off (or hibernate) after inactivity, then it's possible that there is something stopping it doing so before it restarts but nothing after, so it may seem like it turned off from updates if you weren't looking. But in reality it still restarted then turned off a while after restarting. If it turns off while attempting to restat, then there's something wrong which you probably should fix if you can regardless of what else you do. Note that in both this case and the OP's case (as already mentioned by someone else), a look in the Event Viewer may give a slightly better idea of what's going on. Nil Einne (talk) 03:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)