Wikipedia:Meetup/Philadelphia/WikiSalon 2020-06-13

Philadelphia WikiSalon, June 13, 2020
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Agenda for WikiSalon, June 13, 2020: Feel free to add to sections of the following proposed agenda before and during the meeting. We will archive each agenda after the event.

Expectations edit

If you are new to Wikipedia, we hope you will create an account and make at least one edit during this session. If you have experience already, we hope you will share what you're doing or learn something new. Let us know in the Chat or during introductions what your goals are.

Attendees edit

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Dorevabelfiore (talk) 15:42, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Drlauraguertin (talk) 16:02, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bob Burch Nolabob (talk) 16:03, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Caroline Surman Cms2274 (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Special mentions edit

If you've created a new article lately, or had a "Did You Know" featured, add that too!

Demonstration edit

Demonstration to occur in real-time: Using interlanguage links in Wikipedia

Link to Demonstration Video in Commons:

Wikisalon Wikipedia Interlanguage Links Final.webm

Link to PDF tutorial in Commons:[1]

Demonstration archive
What other demonstrations would you be interested in seeing?

Questions edit

Add questions that you have about Wikipedia or Wikipedia projects (Encyclopedia articles, Wikimedia Commons images, Wikidata) either here or in the Chat. Also feel free to suggest resources in response, and discuss during WikiSalon.

1. Can I create a new article on Wikipedia using an article from another language Wikipedia?
- Yes! Starting with a Wikipedia article in another language can be very useful in creating a new article. Because Wikipedia requires everything on it to be released under a copyright license that allows reuse, there are no copyright issues. An existing article can give you a nice overview of what is known about the person. Be aware that requirements for sourcing may be very different on different language Wikipedias. English Wikipedia will require you to cite sources for all information; the other Wikipedia article is not a citeable source. Be sure to verify all your information; some very strange errors can creep in during translation. Check all names. By the time you go through the entire article, verifying, citing, and expanding, your final article may look very different from the article you started with!
  - Dexter Award ==> {{Interlanguage link multi|William Arthur Smeaton|de}} ==> Google translate ==> William Arthur Smeaton

American Ruff by Jan Yager

2. What is the "Did you know" item referred to in the "Special mentions" section of this agenda?
- "Did You Know" (DYK) is a section on the main page of English Wikipedia. Twice daily, it lists several facts from new (or recently expanded) Wikipedia pages, one of which is accompanied by an image. For example, on 19 March 2020, the DYKs included "Did you know... that Jan Yager's artwork American Ruff (pictured) is made from discarded crack-cocaine vials and caps?" Hundreds or thousands of readers may click through to read each DYK article. To appear as a DYK, an article must meet several criteria, be nominated, and go through a review process. You can see more about this, including proposed DYKs under review, at Template talk:Did you know.

3. How are Article Ratings determined? Should we as Wikipedians be concerned about ratings of articles we've written or edited? How do we solicit a re-evaluation of an article we've written or edited?
- Everybody is concerned about the quality of the articles they write and there are many ways that quality is assessed on Wikipedia. As long as the article is good enough to avoid deletion and you are satisfied with the quality, don't worry too much. A page is always a moving target, so a rating may not accurately reflect what you are seeing on the page.
- Ratings of article quality, like many things on Wikipedia, tend to be community based. Featured quality and good quality articles go through an extensive community review process. Some WikiProjects may have their own standards for rating articles, e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Assessment. Ratings supplied by different Wikiprojects may legitimately differ. At the end of the day, someone makes a judgement call and assigns a value to the page.
- Rating an article properly is a lot of work, so please be patient when requesting a rating. Generally all you need to do to get an article re-rated is to remove the rating on the article's talk page, leave a short note there and in the Wikiproject's talk page. Then wait six months.
- If you want a ballpark assessment, ORES software uses artificial intelligence to predict the rating an editor would give an article. It's fairly consistent, but can't detect some issues that a human will spot.
- A quick example: James M. Baxter as of this comment has a permanent ID of 961281489. To get the permanent ID, go to the article, click "permanent ID" in the left hand column and the number appears at the end of the URL. Then open https://ores.wikimedia.org/ui/, enter "enwiki", "article quality", put the permanent ID number in the big box and click "Give me results". Immediately scroll down, and ORES tells you that it predicts that an editor has a 63.5% chance of rating the article as "Start" but only 11.8% chance of rating it "C". For more information, see ORES.

4. “Information about how to find public domain jpeg files ... would be of help to some of my students.”
- Finding Public Domain & Creative Commons Media, Harvard Law School Library

5. “Information about how to ... get permission to use a non-public-domain jpeg would be of help to some of my students.”
- The creator of a work must agree to release an image under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International or another acceptable license. They will need to go through this online release generator and also send an email with an id generated from the form to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, to give permission.

6. “What is the difference between the different projects? And what is the easiest for someone who is still learning to become a Wikipedian?”
- I gave a talk about this to PACSCL (Philadelphia Area Consortium of Special Collections Libraries) on April 30, 2020. You can find the video recording of the talk along with slides and handouts here. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:09, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request collaboration edit

Add articles that you want help with here.

For teaching purposes in general: New editors at the meeting - do you see only the visual editor, the edit source button, or both when you go to edit a page? Thanks! Dorevabelfiore (talk) 22:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Raquel Salas Rivera - There are interesting questions here of gender definition for non-binary individuals that might be interesting and informative to discuss. Thanks. Dorevabelfiore (talk) 22:21, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Atom Scientists”, Ebony magazine, 1949 edit

Lloyd Quarterman, African american chemist, can anyone find "Atom Scientists: Ten Negro Scientists at Argonne Lab Help in Race to Harness Atomic Materials”, Ebony magazine, September 1949, pp. 26-28. SUCCESS! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 18:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]