Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/U2/archive1

U2 edit

Main contributors: Dream out loud, Merbabu, Melicans, Wasted Time R, Y2kcrazyjoker4 (self-nominating)

The proposed Good Article Topic would cover works, events, personnel, and accomplishments associated with the rock group U2 (which is the topic's lead article — a Featured Article). This topic would include 22 articles: 4 FA's, 1 Featured List, and 17 Good Articles. This topic covers a wide but fairly balanced collection of articles: 9 are songs, 3 are studio albums, 2 are tours, 2 are band members, and 2 are video releases. The WikiProject U2 is diligently working on promoting more articles (some of which are already GA listed in this proposed topic) so some of these may soon become FA, while additional GA's may be added in the future. The articles already of GA/FA are well-maintained by our project, so the likelihood of this potential topic ever being a candidate for removal is low. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Call me crazy, but aren't Bono and The Edge rather important pieces that are missing? Staxringold _talk^contribs 22:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as Staxringold: a good topic should not cherry-pick the best articles in a topic area. Ucucha 06:47, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - it's a good selection of articles, but they don't have a coherent theme. If you look at Template:U2 you'll see several fairly coherent groups. At the very least, it should include Bono and The Edge. If you're going to include a selection of albums, it would need to be their major ones - Boy and War would really need to be. If it's going to include their films, then Rattle and Hum really needs to be there. And I really don't think a Simpsons episode belongs here. There's definitely potential for a U2 FT, probably a group of FTs, but this isn't the right collection of articles. Guettarda (talk) 18:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Just for the purposes of clarification, you mean something such as U2 discography should have every album (and single?) as a GA before going for GT, correct? Or that a GT for U2 should be all four band members? GT for No Line on the Horizon should have the album, song, and tour articles all at GA or higher, etc? Melicans (talk, contributions) 18:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Basically, according to the FT criteria, you must include every article that is a subarticle of U2 and that does not itself fall under a subarticle. For example, if U2 discography is included, you don't need to include any individual album in the U2 featured topic. Ucucha 18:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Some things probably shouldn't have articles. So if you did an FT for an album, you wouldn't have to create articles for non-notable songs. The barrier for an FT/GT can be incredibly high sometimes, especially if a topic does not have good, logical breaks. Guettarda (talk) 20:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Oh yeah, sorry, I should have clarified what I meant with the question; I didn't intend to say that every song should have an article when asking about that for a GT. Thanks to you both for the clarification. Melicans (talk, contributions) 20:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose incoherent and incomplete set of articles. If the intention is an "overview" topic, it should stick to the basics: all band members (again, lacks Bono and The Edge), the awards... and a few articles that aren't good enough, U2 discography, List of U2 songs, and List of U2 concert tours (and maybe Timeline of U2 and List of cover versions of U2 songs). igordebraga ≠ 01:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - this is not a defined topic, rather it is merely "all the article related to U2 which happen to be GA/FA". Unfortunately that's not how FTs work, sorry guys...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:59, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regretful oppose. Sorry Y2K, but it felt like the nomination was too hurried. I believe you know that without the principal artist of U2, ie Bono, or The Edge, the nomination will be incomplete always and is not a comprehensive bibliography of U2. I advice you to expand them to GA or FA as suitable and then come back and nominate it for FT. Also missing, the discography. I would love to see this FT back in the nomination myself. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose Suggesting withdrawn. This topic should be, as all above, U2, Bono, The Edge, Adam Clayton, Larry Mullen, Jr., their awards, their discography, their tours and their songs. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 00:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Per everyone above, I'd like to withdraw this nomination. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 13:22, 30 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Closing as withdrawn nomination. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 05:34, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]