Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Ulysses S. Grant

Ulysses S. Grant edit

Original - Grant from West Point to Appomattox, an 1885 engraving. Clockwise from lower left: Graduation from West Point (1843); In the tower at Chapultepec (1847); Drilling his Volunteers (1861); The Battle of Fort Donelson (1862); The Battle of Shiloh (1862); The Siege of Vicksburg (1863); The Battle of Chattanooga (1863); Appointment as Commander-in-Chief by Abraham Lincoln (1864); The Surrender of General Robert E. Lee at Appomattox Court House (1865)

Not for voting - Before restoration

Reason: Stunning, high resolution, encyclopedic as heck =)
Articles this image appears in: Ulysses S. Grant, Twelve-pound cannon [Replaced an older, unrestored version]. It, or details taken from the PNG version, could reasonably be added to the various other articles on the battles, I have not done this at present.
Creator: Thure de Thulstrup (1848-1930) for L. Prang & Co., Boston

Support as nominator --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support. High Enc. Value, very interesting. Mostlyharmless (talk) 11:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose sorry but it looks like it's trying to accomplish too much. In other words, I think it looks cluttered. Also I can see JPEG artefacts and/or blown highlights (can never remember whats what) --Thanks, Hadseys 20:41, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm pretty sure there are no blown highlights; There may be some JPEG artefacts - A little JPEG compression is necessary to get this to a reasonable size - but I saved at 95% quality so there shouldn't be very much, and also uploaded a PNG. More likely you're confusing the graininess of the lithograph for artefacts. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Excellent piece, looks great and satisfies all of the criteria. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Hadseys - i.e. way too busy. This sort of image particularly bothers me. Yes, maybe it looks nice at FPC but in the article I think it's somewhat silly looking. At thumbnail size it is not very useful to the reader; to the extent that the secondary images are important they should be cropped and individually inserted. We have another FP like this of a sculptor and it's always bothered me for the same reason. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's one of the most common arrangements in Victorian art for mass consumption. What am I supposed to do? Not provide contemporary views of Grant? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't appear to be any shortage of non-montage (?) images of Grant in commons:Category:Ulysses S. Grant - in fact, this seems to be the only one. I note that currently the image has been blown up to 450px in Ulysses S. Grant, making the article look silly even on my uber-widescreen monitor. I can't imagine what it looks like on normal monitors. The problem with this image is that it is not useful at ordinary thumbnail size. Calliopejen1 (talk) 14:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - GerardM (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC) Historic material in its original setting.. In many ways, the way people were portrayed in their time reflects how people were perceived. When this is different from our current vision, it is all the more reason to understand this difference.[reply]
Weak Oppose per Calliopejen1. Makeemlighter (talk) 06:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 11:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]