Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/National Library - Sofia.jpg

Saints Cyril and Methodius National Library edit

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Original – Saints Cyril and Methodius National Library of Bulgaria is among the main symbols of Sofia. It was designed by the architectural team Vasilyov-Tsolov, leading Bulgarian architects from the first half of the 20th century.

Reason: Quality dynamic photo which presents the whole front facade of one of the landmarks of Sofia.
Articles in which this image appears: SS. Cyril and Methodius National Library, Ivan Vasilyov
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator: MrPanyGoff

Support as nominator --MrPanyGoff (talk) 07:22, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support. Nicely taken. I can imagine that this is probably the best possible view of the subject (any closer and distortion becomes distracting, any further and the trees become too prevalent, in summer, the leaves would obscure, etc), but it doesn't have much wow-factor at all - the lighting is a bit dull, the grassy area is bare, etc. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the exact explanation of the situation indeed this is the best position and time. As for the lighting, you describe as a dull, this is the moment in the morning when the sun starts touching the front facade. An hour later and the crowd become bigger, an hour earlier there are not so many people but the facade is in darker shadow.--MrPanyGoff (talk) 12:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per Diliff (a nice summary of these annoying little things which architectural shots in busy places). It's a bit cold of a picture and I wish there were more green as well, but this probably would have lower the EV which is more important over here. - Blieusong (talk) 19:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support very good framing and timing of the year and happy to see the human scale well captured as well, but I think a bit more light on the façade would have made it even better. I altered slightly the caption to link to the article about the building and be more encyclopedic in style. Hope you don't mind. --Elekhh (talk) 00:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support per others. Also I'm pretty sure it has a minor clockwise tilt. The verticals also look to bow out a bit - perhaps some correctable lens distortion? --jjron (talk) 11:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought it had a clockwise tilt as well... until I checked it with an onscreen straightedge. It's actually quite level. I think there may be an optical illusion going on with the trees and sky. Regarding the tilted out sides... yes, they definitely tilt out. The photo is also taken from slightly off-center. If you're going to take the time for such a nice shot, is it too much trouble to shift a foot or two left or right to get the shot dead on? JBarta (talk) 02:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did check it against a straight edge (roof and veranda level) and thought it had a very minor tilt, but it was only a quick and rough check so am willing to be corrected if someone has checked more carefully. Hmmm, if it does bow a bit, maybe that explains a perceived tilt... --jjron (talk) 02:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Nice building and snap, but looking at the articles, they are very skimpy and this shot not really supporting much. (low tie-in to content IOW).TCO (Reviews needed) 15:08, 1 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- That's an invalid reason for oppose, just because the articles are "very skimpy" is not a valid grouns for oppose. Being a picture of the building that SS. Cyril and Methodius National Library the article is about, makes this about the most relevant picture you can have for the article, which is all that is necessary for that part of the criteria. This oppose probably should be struck since it's simply an oppose on the quality/quantity of the articles it is in and the relevance of the picture for it's main article is pretty clear. In the future TCO, please try to keep your votes within the constrains of established promotion criteria and conventions... If you have any questions on any rule or if you think something should or shouldn't be promoted like this, then start with a comment, ask for others opinions on it first, or use the talk page. The goal of this project is to get quality high value images for our articles, and as been shown time and time again, a stub that has a FP is VERY likely to get improved well beyond a stub. VASTLY better chance of a stub with a FP to be improved then a stub without. — raeky t 13:54, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - That's right, the contributors of good photos are not responsible for the development of the articles and all the problems in the Wikimedia as a whole.--MrPanyGoff (talk) 10:50, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Good image, and I understand why it had to be taken this time of year. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:24, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support per Diliff. Nice job, even if the end-product is a little underwhelming. J Milburn (talk) 02:13, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:National Library - Sofia.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 11:23, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]