Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Golden monkey

Golden monkey

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Original – Golden monkey (Cercopithecus kandti) feeding on bamboo, Volcanoes National Park, Rwanda

Reason: High quality large image. FP on Commons. Illustrates article well. This is an endangered species that needs supplies of bamboo to survive and its habitat is being destroyed.
Articles in which this image appears: Golden monkey
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator: Charlesjsharp

Support as nominator – Charlesjsharp (talk) 18:44, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Can you make a case in the reason section of this nom regarding why or how this image adds significant encyclopedic value to the article? So that we are all on the same page and know what we are voting for. Particularly in light of your two recent oppose votes on non-infobox animal nominations, it would be helpful to have a rationale for this nomination. Currently the reason section of the nom says "Illustrates article well" which isn't literally true, because the article isn't about the feeding habit of this monkey. Bammesk (talk) 20:12, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment For animals, the unspoken rule is that a picture of the whole animal fills the infobox. This is an endangered species that needs supplies of bamboo to survive and its habitat is being destroyed. Hence I chose this one of the four images in the article. Since all the images in the article are mine, I can be objective in choosing which I believe to be the most encyclopaedic. Charlesjsharp (talk) 20:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The reason section is better, but it doesn't put two and two together. It should also say: the image shows the monkey eating bamboo and the article covers the feeding habit and the role of bamboo. The image needs to be captioned in the article to give it EV, stating the monkey is feeding on bamboo, otherwise readers would have no clue what the monkey is holding or doing.

About: "I can be objective in choosing which I believe to be the most encyclopedic." . . . Nominations aren't just about you, they involve the rest of us too. Noms have a reason section, so use it to communicate, to tell us what you have in mind, because no one can read your mind. Don't expect us to spend half an hour figuring out why you are doing or saying something. The same goes for when you participate in other people's nominations. Make your comments and oppose rationales clear to others (not just clear to yourself), write in "specifics" and make it relatable to the 8 numbered items in the FP criteria. Bammesk (talk) 23:03, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Bamboo branch partially obscures subject. – Sca (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Yes, Sca, but the eating of bamboo is the purpose of the shot. I've made this clear in the article. Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support striking view of the subject in its habitat with adequate technical and legal specifications. I find the !opposing arguments to be wanting. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 08:42, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, although I suspect that another of the photos could easily ALSO be an FP. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.3% of all FPs} 20:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I really think an image caption in the article is necessary. Otherwise there is no clarity in the article as to what the monkey is doing or holding. Bammesk (talk) 02:53, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I agree, done. Bammesk Charlesjsharp (talk) 08:42, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. MER-C 12:08, 1 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:03, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination didn't reach the necessary quorum for promotion. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 23:03, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]