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List of Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu

This is a comprehensive list of Chief Ministers of the state of Tamil Nadu in India since 1920. It contains in-line references and footnotes. Graphical timelines show a better view of the tenure. I think it satisfies all the criteria to be a featured list. As for the one citation needed tag, please check this where I am waiting for consensus for removing it. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 19:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment In firefox 800*600 resolution, the 2 Madras Presidency images are intruding into the list. Untill you have that needed inline citation, the list does not totally fulfil the criteria no.2 (Accurate).--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

  I added clr tags to keep the images from overlapping into the lists. Could you please check again? - Ganeshk (talk) 05:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  I tried this. If this is not fine, feel free to revert. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 10:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Comment Still that citation needed tag is nagging. Moreover main reference link is not working. (Government of Tamil Nadu — Chief Ministers of Tamil Nadu since 1920).--Dwaipayan (talk) 11:33, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I just tried the link and it is working. Could you please check now? - Ganeshk (talk) 14:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

It's peculiar. The link is still not working. In fact tn gov site is not working. I tried from Tamil Nadu, there also it's not working! I tried both I.E. and firefox.--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Really unusual. The link works fine for me. Please investigate at your end. It's likely not a problem with the site. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 14:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, the link is fine now. Must have been some problem from my side!--Dwaipayan (talk) 14:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hopefully, this edit solves the citation problem. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 15:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

• Support Of course!--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support Best resource available on the Internet on this subject. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 06:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support. Although the average editor will have to go through six pages before he gets what he/she was looking for (i.e. List of Chief Ministers of the state of Tamil Nadu), I feel that the list satisfies all the FL Criteria and can be featured. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:28, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  Yes, but if we split them into multiple lists, they may be too small and some users would require the context before going to the actual list. Do you suggest a reverse chronological ordering otherwise? -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 10:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I have no problem with the current scheme. If I had, I would have opposed the list. I just made an observation that this list is more extensive than most readers would expect and hence they will have to scroll down more in order to look for what they were looking for. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh ok, thanks. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 14:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

• Support, great work! —Nightstallion (?) 17:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
• Object. The list is cumbersome with extraneous detail. No distinction is made between the 1919, 1935 and 1950 Constitutions and their dramatic effects on electorates and public offices. For instance, in 1919 the electorate was limited to top 5m but in 1950 it was expanded to over 220m (by the daring Ambedkar). Also, unlike the 1950 Constitution, its predecessors were not parliamentary but federal. So the Chief Commissioners and Governors of all provinces reported to the Governor-General (who replaced the Viceroy and thus reported to the Prime Minister of UK who reported to George V). Also, there is an unexplained gap during 1939-46. This Sixties' image along with other more recent pics seems to violate copyrights. Amateur work. Anwar 09:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Featured lists have to be comprehensive, hence your allegation is unfounded. Again, the list is not meant to discuss constitution as it is about Chief Ministers. Although the image is copyrighted, it is used under Fair use. So please read it before objecting. The work is quite professional so that that allegation is also unfounded. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:01, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
  • As Ambuj has noted above, the list is about CMs and is not meant to be a political history. If you have any information, feel free to create an article on the political history of Tamil Nadu. Having said that, the article does note changes relevant to CMs with references. See the following examples.

    ... the governance structure also evolved from a modest secretariat with a single secretary for the Public Department in 1670 to six departments overseen by a Chief Secretary by 1920. With the enactment of Government of India Act of 1919, the first legislature was formed in 1920 after general elections.<ref name="tnhist">[http://www.tn.gov.in/misc/histn.htm Government of Tamil Nadu — Tamil Nadu Secretariat — Brief History]</ref>

    The first legislature of the Madras State to be elected on the basis of universal suffrage was constituted on March 1, 1952, after the general elections held in January 1952.<ref>[http://www.assembly.tn.gov.in/history/history.htm Government of Tamil Nadu — The State Legislature — Origin and Evolution]</ref>

  • Feel free to improve the article. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 10:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Reply to Anwar: I have updated the article per your comments. Please check these edits. I have added the events surrounding the 1920, 1935 legislatures. Also added the reason why there was a gap in the legislature between 1939 and 1946. The images are clearly marked fair use with rationale. Please check and advise. - Ganeshk (talk) 06:33, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Support.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support looks great to me. —Khoikhoi 03:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose: Image:M karunanidhi 20060526.jpg and Image:Mgr4R.jpg need fair use rationales because they are being used in more than one article. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 11:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Reply to Rune.welsh: I have added Fairusein tags to both images and also added rationale. Please check and let me know if that will suffice. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 04:41, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, but that's not quite what I was expecting. See Image:Simpsons_s6.png for an example. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 10:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I updated the rationale again. Please give it a check. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 13:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

• Support This is good stuff. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 10:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support when FU issues/objections sorted out — otherwise count this as a "neutral" vote. Nice work now that FU tags are in place. Weak object ([1]; didn't have time to follow article, so self-reverted first vote) Saravask 02:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support – the timelines are a novel addition. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. The list is great but it is crowded. Could you remove the two Madras Presidency maps since they are very intrusive and could be easily found in Madras Presidency? And while the horizontal templates are very useful, the vertical one is rebundant and very big, and should be removed. Otherwise you have my support. CG 13:23, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
• Reply to CG:
• I removed one of maps and moved it to the right. Let me know if its okay.
• I removed the vertical timeline and moved it to a sub-page. The vertical timeline adds additional information such as important events during the tenures.

Please check and comment. Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• • Thank you for your response. As for the maps it's better now. As for the vertical timeline, I would vote for its deletion, but if you think it offers a lot more information I won't mind if we keep it on a separate page. CG 05:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    • My objections have been solved. I'll change my vote to Support. CG 07:04, 12 June 2006 (UTC)