Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Fractal

Fractal edit

Article is no longer a featured article

This article is quite skinny AND poorly organized. Note in particular the "examples" section which holds bits of everything. The article is also shallow as far as the mathematical theory is concerned. No references, and an external links section that needs a good amount of weeding. Was given featured status with minimum support back in 2004. Fredrik | talk 19:33, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tentative remove. Looks like you're doing some useful changes on the article. I certainly don't think it's substantially below featured quality, although it certainly has rough points. Keep at it, and by the time that this vote expires (in two weeks) perhaps this will be a keep vote. --FOo 21:42, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral so far. I'm on the fence here. For one, I somehow missed this one when I went through looking for FA's without references, so it never got a request to fix that. Otherwise I would vote remove on principal. But other than that, the fact that it is superficial doesn't make a clear case for removal from featured status to me. I actually like it since it means I can understand it, and I probably wouldn't understand a treatment of the subject geared for a math PhD. That said, if you know of more deep level material that is important to the subject but isn't covered, then this article fails the comprehensiveness criteria also. Best would be to maintain an understandable coverage for as great a percentage of the article as possible, but also include the nitty gritty details where needed or better, in separate sections if possible. - Taxman ^Talk 20:46, August 29, 2005 (UTC)
Neutral. On the one hand, the article meets almost all FA criteria. In fact, the only criteria on which it fails is that it lacks a References section, which is easily fixed. And it's not shallow - it is deliberately written at an introductory level suitable for the general reader; if you want the mathematical detail, take a look at Hausdorff dimension, Mandelbrot set and the other articles on specific fractals. OTOH, if this wasn't a FA, it would get less attention from well-meaning folks trying to "improve" it by adding a link to their favourite fractal gallery. FA status can make articles worse. Gandalf61 13:24, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Comment: Though the votes above are tentative and neutral, the objections contained therein, namely the lack of references, have not been rectified (even though the article has been on FARC for five extra days). I am defeaturing the article; No Vote. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]