Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Uncle Tupelo

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 18:00, 19 June 2007.

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Uncle Tupelo

Self-nom. A highly influential if not somewhat obscure band of the early 1990s that was recently promoted to GA. I feel that it fulfills the featured article criteria, so I decided to list it here. What do you guys think? Teemu08 22:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

• Support. Meets the criteria. Well organized and written. One thing, though, could you use the band's album covers to provide more illustrations for the article? CLA 02:47, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Yuck, album covers don't generally help illustrate much for an article (see Norah Jones), and it's not as easy to justify using them in an article about the band. It may be a good idea to add another sample or two, for example to illustrate the layered sounds used on Still Feel Gone. ShadowHalo 13:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
    • I don't own Still Feel Gone, but I added a sound clip of "Atomic Power" from March 16–20, 1992 to give an example of the band's acoustic style. Teemu08 21:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Have not read the article fully yet, but some initial comments:

• I'd like to see the extent of their influence on the alt.country scene more fully developed in the lead. I remember when alt.country was called "no depression", and I've spent the last week reading reviews of "Sky Blue Sky" which all opened with this point. (Randomly from Q: "...previous incarnation Uncle Tupelo pretty much invented the template").
  • I quickly browsed through almost twenty reviews of Sky Blue Sky, but didn't find anything that wasn't already implemented in the article. I don't have the Q Magazine review of the album, however. I was able to expand the legacy section a bit with a few articles that I just came across. Teemu08 04:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Better; but "and influenced artists such as Whiskeytown" - thats an understatment, to put it mildly. Ceoil 04:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

True, but I can't romanticize the band's influence without sources to back it up, which I haven't been able to find aside from the included articles. Teemu08 22:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, it's evidant from the "Legacy" section anyway. Ceoil 22:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

• The first para in the "The Plebes and The Primitives" section is undated.
  • The only date I can find for the band is "early 1980s" — I hope that will suffice. Teemu08 03:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• I'll have more to say on the prose, but can you avoid constructs such as "Wishing to enter a battle-of-the-bands competition, the Plebes sought a fourth band member" - Why not "The Plebes sought to enter a battle-of-the-bands competition, and sought a fourth band member".
• Can you add retreval dates to the cited weblinks.
  • Fixed. Teemu08 03:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
• Cite 63 points to an faq. Is this a WP:RS
  • Well, it does come from the No Depression official website, so I would say yes. The main page used to have a box stating this tidbit, so if necessary I could use the wayback machine to link to an older version the main page. Teemu08 03:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

So far as i've read, great work. Ceoil 22:31, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Q: "but began to listen to country music after punk rock received a poor reception from Belleville crowds" - had they not listened to country before; was the poor reception towards the bands own brand of punk or to punk in general. Ceoil 22:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

• I clarified that statement a bit. By the way, thanks for the ce. Teemu08 00:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

• Good article, well referenced, Support. It needs a copyedit, but I'm doing that now, and will finish tonight or tomorrow. I have some other minor suggestions (and will add more if need be):

• "Image:Uncle Tupelo.jpg" needs to specify in its FUR which articles use the image and why. Same with "Image:Uncle Tupelo poster.png".
• "Image:UTFactoryBelt.ogg" and "Image:UTAtomicPower.ogg" should specify copyright holder, songwriter, producers, etc., per Wikipedia:Music_samples.

• Images and samples fixed. Teemu08 20:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

- Merzbow 04:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyedit is done; prose still needs a small bit of tightening from a second pair of eyes, but it's of course still a support. - Merzbow 05:42, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

• Support. (member of the Alternative music WikiProject) It's well referenced and comprehensive. You may want to add when the infobox picture was (c. 1991 is fine) to the caption, but that's a minor point. I agree that the prose does need a little tightening; I'll see if I can give it a copyedit sometime. CloudNine 11:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
• Support. But ...
  • What's the apostrophe doing here, last sentence in the lead: " Farrar and Tweedy lyrics' frequently referenced Middle America and the working class of Belleville."?
  • "Anthropomorphic"—Bit high-fallutin'. Can't you express it more simply?
  • Caption for "Factory belt": "This song showcases the band's start-stop song technique"—"Exemplifies" better than "showcases". En dash for "start–stop". Tony 09:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
    • All fixed. Teemu08 19:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.