Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Merit badge types (BSA)/SolvedIssuesArchive1

ScienceApologist

~~Object~~ -- It would be nice to see more dynamic linking in the article. We dont need to overdo it, but there seems to be a sincere lack of wikilinks to articles that are very relevant to the subject at hand. --ScienceApologist 16:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you referring to wiki articles that already exist? Several links have already been made to wiki articles (Court of Honor, Eagle rank, Eagle Palms, Scoutcraft, etc). I'll look for more wiki articles to link to. Let me know if you have specific links you'd like to see. Rlevse 16:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- About 45 wiki links have just been made.Rlevse 17:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

JoaoRicardo

Weak object. Article is very good, but a few things caught my attention. First, there are no references for claims about collecting (such as "item X is highly valued by collectors"). Second, the section "Merit badge collecting" is really about collecting other things that are not merit badges, and therefore does not belong in this article. Third, it would be nice to have a source for the existence of these spoof merit badges, be it a picture or reference in some work. JoaoRicardo^talk 19:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The spoof badges can be found at [1]. Zach ^{(Smack Back)} 19:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The spoof badges can also be found at [[2]]. I've added both these links to the external links section. I'm still working on the other issues.Rlevse 19:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I deleted or reworded the parts your first issue refers too. I added a whole paragraph to the MB collection section on caring for MBs. I believe this deals with all your concerns. Please let me know if you other issues. Thanks for the input. 70.160.188.138 22:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - The above comment was Rlevse I think. I'm ~~wiki-stalking~~ helping him a bit with the article. --Naha|^(talk) 22:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, that was me, somehow my login went away. Rlevse 22:29, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think the best solution would simply be to do away with the entire "Merit badge collecting" section. JoaoRicardo's second issue says that the section isn't on topic, as it discusses issues other than merit badges. Because there already exists a "Scouting memorabilia collecting" link at the bottom, is it really even necessary to discuss any of it at all? That's not the point of the article - that's the reason Rlevse moved it from Merit badge collecting a few weeks ago. All that makes this section special, then, are short how-tos for MB collecting. Is this, however, even encyclopedic? We have a separate article for BSA memoribilia collecting, which in no way affects the completeness of this article. -Rebelguys2 22:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - Yes, Rebelguy, that's what I was saying. The article is better without that section. JoaoRicardo^talk 06:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        I had a feeling that's what you were hinting at, but I wasn't totally sure. Cool. -Rebelguys2 16:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - The MB Collecting section was totally removed, and I for one don't plan to put it back in.Rlevse 00:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rebelguys2

Conditional Support. Nice work since the original FAC, Rlevse, it is much better and there are no extremely pressing issues. However, there's still a few things I think you need to get out of the way - all small this time around. I also had an edit conflict before submitting this, and have commented on the thread above regarding "Merit badge collecting:"
- ~~Merit badge collecting~~. A big problem is still with the "Merit badge collecting" section. The first paragraph there seems like a how-to. There is a decidedly unencyclopedic feel to it, as it seems like a hobbyist's suggestion or a segment from Martha Stewart. The main problem here is that you're touching on an entirely new subject - collecting; regardless, there already exists a Scouting memorabilia collecting article. It's not complete, which is okay as I don't think it's relevant to the article. Perhaps a short mention about the collectability in the lead would be an alternative, with a dynamic link to "Collecting." The second paragraph just lists other BSA-issued patches and the like. This article seems very specific to merit badges - perhaps you could stick that content into the Scouting memorabilia collecting article.
  - The MB Collecting section has been totally removed and I for one do not plan to put it back in. Rlevse 00:29, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~Types of merit badges~~. There is no need to create additional links to the sub-sub-heading for each merit badge type in the section; that's what the TOC box is for. In addition, I'm not a fan of having to mouse over the images for any information at all - it's important to keep in mind that we have users that may not be able to see the image's alt text easily whether due to the fact they're accessing the internet from a cell phone or PDA, they're disabled, they're using WebTV, and other issues.

I did that linking, so I'll take the blame for it. --JohnDBuell 00:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

::When I tried to have it show up as captions without mousing over, it didn't work. I only can get it to work with a thumbnail and when both pics have that and the capiton, the table body gets too large and leave lots of space in the description section--it actually hurt my eyes to look at it. Suggestions or did I just do it wrongRlevse 02:14, 30 December 2005 (UTC) I found a way that works-at least better than anything else I've tried. I added the MB name to the top bar of the table. This lends the most eye-appealing result and I think will be okay. Rlevse 14:06, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

- ~~Language~~. Don't use second person like you did in the article - "If you compare," "notice that you can see," and so on. This isn't a how-to guide, and it sounds a little off to me when we remember that this is foremost an encyclopedia.
  - This is now fixed. Rlevse 00:33, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - I've gone ahead and stricken this issue; there still may be some "brilliant prose" issues, but regarding other items. -Rebelguys2 16:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~Merit badge types~~. A very, very small issue here that I'm not sure of myself. Is "merit badge types," those exact words, an official way to refer to them? When you open with, "The term Merit badge types refers," are you the one defining what the exact words, "merit badge types," will mean in the context of this article, or is that exact phrase what's used by all sources to describe types of merit badge? Why is the "Merit" capitalized? "As used herein," makes me think that this phrase is what you've defined for the sake of the article. It might be a better idea not to do that; instead, continue to start out by defining merit badge types and bolding it in the opening paragraph - but not as a specific or official term. Good luck - it's getting to be an FAC! -Rebelguys2 22:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]