Zero0001

Creating a talk page. Zero0001 (talk) 12:24, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Editing talk page. Zero0001 (talk) 12:25, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Blocked .EDU domain followup

Hi User:Zero0000, I wanted to leave this on your primary talk page but it seems to be semi-protected at the moment. Please feel free to move this to my talk page.

You may remember this discussion from last December about blocking EDU domains. At the time you said "If you tell us the IP range under consideration, we can investigate the reasons and lift the block if appropriate.". Well I went to visit my niece at her college and I brought my laptop with me. I was trying to help her with something related to her school paperwork and so we logged onto the campus wifi network. While there I was curious about the discussion I had started here and so I navigated to a WP page and then tried to edit it. What I was greeted with was a template containing (in part) the following text:

Editing from 207.233.90.1 has been blocked (disabled) by Materialscientist for the following reason(s): Educational institution IP address To edit, please create an account at home and log in with it here. Due to persistent vandalism (see edit log), anonymous editing from your school, library, or educational institution's IP address is blocked (disabled). You will continue to have access to read the encyclopedia. If you are logged in but still unable to edit, please follow these instructions. To prevent abuse, account creation via this IP address might also be disabled. If account creation is disabled and you are unable to create an account elsewhere, you can request one by filling out this form. Please check on this list that the username you choose has not already been taken. If editing is required for class projects, please have your instructor or network administrator contact us (with reference to this IP address) at the Unblock Ticket Request System with a contact email address that is listed on your school's website. Thank you for your cooperation. This block has been set to expire: 21:32, 25 September 2016.

My niece assures me this is not just one IP but rather it happens for everyone she knows who tries to anonymously edit WP from anywhere on the campus. For the record, the IP address above is dedicated to the local community college (Antelope Valley College / AVC.EDU) with a campus population of over 17,000 students plus hundreds of faculty and staff. The ISP and owner of the IP is the taxpayer funded California State University Network.

During that December discussion the comments made by you and others suggested such blocks are very rare and done with great care and so it seems rather incredible to me:

1. That an entire college's WP edit access can be blocked for the (stated) "reason" of being a school IP? I have to assume this is just a poorly articulated reason.
2. That such a large scale block can be scheduled to last for more than a full year. How long ago was this put in place and why for so long?

I have some questions...

• How did all this happen with AVC? Is there an archived discussion on this decision that might shed some light?
• Is it only this one local college or is it all of the California State Universities & Community Colleges on this network?
• Why do we have a template specifically for blocking schools? Is it such a widespread issue that we need a template just for them?
• Is there a special (targetted) policy for blocking schools (which is pretty similar to my original question in the older discussion) ?

I appreciate you looking into this. 104.32.193.6 (talk) 09:05, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Zero: I replied to your comments on my talk page. Not sure if you get notified of that or what. 104.32.193.6 (talk) 06:51, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit of Article on the Kafr Qasim massacre

I see that my edit to the article about the Kafr Qasim massacre, which added the quotation from the first comprehensive modern history of Israel by Noah Lucas (1975) was completely removed with the remark that it "added nothing", or words to that effect.

I disagree.

Lucas' history is not focused on such events. It is therefore that much more notable that he cites this particular event as emblematic of the fundamental relationship that existed between Jews and Arabs in the long aftermath of the 1948 war, taking place when these areas remained under martial law that had been imposed during British mandatory rule in response to actions by Jewish settlers. It is also to be noted that in the introduction as it now stands, there is no mention of the fact that the Arab villagers were killed as they returned from the fields unaware that a curfew had been placed, even though this fact was addressed in much greater detail in the body of the article, as is very appropriate and helps to explain in part how the event occurred.

I also find the Lucas work from 1975 authoritative and non-politicized, characteristics that have been progressively less prevalent in writings on this overall subject. Improvethewiki (talk) 09:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)