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Bogdanov Affair

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Hi, I'd appreciate it if you could comment on my proposal to add a new paragraph titled "Internet Discussions" to the Bogdanov Affair, since your webpage contains extensive information about this particular topic. I'd be intererested in your opinion to see if it's relevant and if yes, if the information is correct. Thanks. Ze miguel 12:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

YBM, I admire your steadfastness and endurance dealing with the two Net.kook brothers. However, this is already stressing me out, so I'll leave this topic for now, perhaps I'll come back if/when they get tired of Wikipedia and go on defending their "work" elsewhere. I'll go and try to add content to less controversial topics. Best of luck to you. Ze miguel 15:15, 6 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Arbitration accepted

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Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Regarding The Bogdanov Affair has been accepted. Please place evidence at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Regarding The Bogdanov Affair/Evidence Fred Bauder 15:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Bogdanov Affair - your recent editing

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Dear YBM: I thought I should let you know that you violated the three-revert rule on Bogdanov Affair by making 4 reverts within 24 hours (see WP:3RR for the policy) which, as per policy, carries with it a block. In this case, however, I have decided not to block you, since I thought that you may have been unaware of this policy and that it would be somewhat unfair to do so. I would like to warn you that if you do this again, there is a possibility that I or another adminstrator may block you for up to 24 hours.

I would like to ask you to please read Wikipedia:Neutral point of view for information on Wikipedia's NPOV policy. No matter how "proven" your claims are that you make in the Bogdanov Affair article, it is necessary that all text is worded in a neutral fashion. For example, sentences like "Igor and/or Grichka used a variety of pseudonyms, all pretending to be great scientists, trying to intimidate people using authority arguments without any scientific grounds and insulting scientists who criticized them", no matter how true you feel they may be, are not worded in a neutral voice and are not written in an encyclopaedic manner. Your edits have contained a number of these, and I figured that I should let you know about this.

I also suspect you may be unaware of the way we deal with sources here on Wikipedia; you may be interested to read Wikipedia:Cite sources for information about how claims must be referenced. In the editing that you made, there were a number of claims that were not assigned to a reference, and I would be grateful if you would make inline references for each claim made - please see Wikipedia:Footnotes for further information about this.

In addition, I have a specific request to make to you; I have recently unprotected User:XAL's talk page, on her assurance to not abuse it, and I would be most grateful if you would please refrain from posting there to avoid leading her to commit violations of Wikipedia:Civility in responding to you. I am only asking this in the interests of avoiding her being provoked into further anger, and I do hope that you understand that it is better to avoid her getting upset over matters on Wikipedia.

I would like to thank you very much for the hard work that you have put into the Bogdanov Affair article, and the work that you have done tempering the Bogdanovs' anti-critical material. If there is any further advice that you require on editing Wikipedia articles, or desire administrative assistance relating to something that has occurred on that page, please do not hesistate to speak to me.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Best regards,

NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 02:17, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

24 hour block

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YBM, Beside a few points about your version, I find you way to clinging to it no more acceptable that Laurence67's, so I am giving you a 24 hours block for excessive reverts. Rama 07:01, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

3RR warning - Bogdanov Affair, 13th Oct

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Dear YBM: You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 00:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Another 3RR warning - 16th October

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Dear YBM: Once again, You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 21:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Ban on editors involved in Bogdanov Affair

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All user accounts used by participants in the external controversy (involving the Bogdanov Affari) are banned from Wikipedia pending resolution of this matter. The criteria for determining external involvement shall be a review of their edit history, it being presumed that if the vast majority of their edits were to the Bogdanov Affair and related pages such as this arbitration that they are not Wikipedia editors but persons involved in the external dispute. This group includes: YBM (talk · contribs), XAL (talk · contribs), ProfesseurYIN (talk · contribs), Igor B. (talk · contribs), CatherineV (talk · contribs), 82.123.187.53 (talk · contribs). Laurence67 (talk · contribs), EE Guy (talk · contribs), 82.123.46.149 (talk · contribs), 82.123.57.232 (talk · contribs), Luis A. (talk · contribs) and all others who meet the criteria. Rbj (talk · contribs), a regular Wikipedia editor, and Ze miguel (talk · contribs), a new editor who has edited other areas, are banned from editing Bogdanov Affair, pending resolution of this matter.

A less restrictive injunction Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Regarding_The_Bogdanov_Affair/Proposed_decision#Ban_on_editing_Bogdanov_Affair is under consideration and may replace the total bans. Fred Bauder 19:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Final decision

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The arbitraton committee has reached a final decision in the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Regarding The Bogdanov Affair case. →Raul654 03:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)Reply