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Veganism

Hi, could I ask you to stop making this edit, please? First, that's not how we format references. More importantly, the reference is already in the lead, in one of the footnotes. If you do a search for the URL, you'll see it. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 17:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

You respond by restoring it? That isn't helpful. Also, the next edit you made involved another style error. We begin articles by offering the alternative terms up front; see WP:LEAD.

I'm in the process of trying to fix this article up—which means making it compliant with our content policies and Manual of Style—and I'd therefore appreciate it very much if you'd make your suggestions on Talk:Veganism, so we can discuss them, rather than continuing to revert. There's a lot of work involved in fixing up an article like this. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 17:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I've understood what I wanted to say about the references. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank you very much.Xxxzenicxxx (talk) 17:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

No worries. The International Vegetarian Union article you found was very helpful, by the way, and I've added more material from it, so thank you. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 17:51, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, we start articles by defining the terms, not like this. See WP:LEAD. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 19:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

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Veganism again

Hi, could I ask you again to stop reverting at Veganism? You're adding your personal opinion to the first two sentences, using an old source that you favour, and there are objections on the talk page. (What the British Vegan Society decided decades ago, and what is the case nowadays, are not necessarily the same thing. No organization is in control of the way the word "veganism" is used.) The writing is also problematic.

It would be very much appreciated if you would discuss it on talk rather than repeatedly restoring. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

You also have control over how you use the word "vegan", but that you are doing. Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products in all areas of life.Xxxzenicxxx (talk)

But some sources, and some vegans, use the term "veganism" to refer to a vegan diet. I know you strongly disagree with this, but we're not allowed to dictate the content of articles according to our personal views. Also, the earliest vegans followed a vegan diet only, and the first definition of "vegan" by the British Vegan Society was simply the diet. So in a sense the current trend is going back to veganism's roots.

I do take your point that a lot of vegans (perhaps most) see it as a philosophy, not only a diet, but the lead does reflect that point of view too. We have to reflect multiple points of view, per WP:NPOV, or at least all the points of view we find in reliable sources. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:39, 5 September 2012 (UTC)