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Thanks for your message, Erik. I'm still very much on the editing learning curve so I'm sure the page you mention will be useful. I'll have a good look at the task forces you mention. Just a quick question. All the film articles I've looked at have a plot summary section. Are these encouraged by the film groups? I can't see how a plot summary can be referenced very easily. Either it's drawn from some other plot summary or it's based on the editor's memory of seeing the film? Some film articles don't have much else apart from a plot summary, with or without references. We used to get told off for writing literature essays that merely re-told the story, but an encyclopoedia article is a very different thing from a literature essay. I find the plot summaries on wikipedia very useful if I've seen a movie and missed some plot details.

Welham66 (talk) 10:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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update from last week

Is this issue still unresolved?--chaser (talk) 13:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for following up, chaser. It's more or less resolved for the time being I think. Some issues remain but some progress seems to have been made. Welham66 (talk) 05:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice work!

Very nice work on the money article. We need more wiki gnomes to fix up grammar, presentation and spelling. I'ld like to present you with a barnstar to recognize and encourage your good work. Best, LK (talk) 07:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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		Your good work is seen and appreciated! LK (talk) 07:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much LK. It's nice of you to recognise my very modest contribution. Welham66 (talk) 10:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland

Hi! Welham66! Thank you for your message! I am very happy that you generally approve of my edits; the article is still very incomplete, of course. I hope to elaborate on some themes with time. Unfortunately, Northumberland carries along lots of "historiographical baggage" (historian Stephen Alford, meaning his black legend). The historiography of the reign of Edward VI has seen major revisions since the 1950s; what is especially important here: the notion that Dudley (or others apart from the King) were primarily responsible for the altered succession is almost extinct among academic historians by now. For an informal view see this piece by a former WP editor who is a professional historian (that was before my time here; I recently hit upon it by chance).

As regards the paragraph about Mary I in the last section (Morris), I will try to find the date of her triumphal entry because that happened after Northumberland gave up, and it had little to do with the actual change of power (that's why I probably thought it does not so much belong to this article). Dudley's unpopularity is now mentioned directly before this (as well as in an earlier section) and more to this effect will be added, expanding.

• I have to change the term "legitimacy", however, as Mary was technically illegitimate because of her father's laws which he never changed; he only restored her to the succession, not in blood; which means she was not Henry's heir, but a successor; i.e., she just happened to be one of the persons he nominated in his Act and his testament (see e.g., Henry VIII of England#Final years: 1540-1547; WP is correct in this instance). As Queen, Mary had herself legitimized by her first parliament.

• I would also like to remove that Dudley "mistreated" Mary (I mean apart from the Jane Grey thing); that was Mary's view, but she was unfair in this, ignoring the role of her brother; and, anyway, the pressure on her was not that great (e.g., Dudley restored the title of Princess of England to her in April 1553—which she had lost under her father—and she made profitable land exchanges with the Crown then and earlier).

• That the English felt Catholic, that may be the case. I would however argue that this issue goes beyond the scope of this biographical article. Also, Mary made promises that she wouldn't make religious changes, which she then did not keep. When mass was restored, the London populace said they had preferred Northumberland to walk free rather than the mass!

Sorry for this rant, but I thought I should explain a bit (history... always problematic...) I will try to continue with the article, including some of the above issues (in small steps). Buchraeumer (talk) 15:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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