User talk:Topology Expert/Archive 10

Countable compactness => Lindelof (under what conditions)

Noticed this disappearing unanswered at the top of the reference desk, not my cup of tea but have added a note, possibly Novak space? Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Mathematics/2008_November_15#Countable_compactness_.3D.3E_Lindelof_.28under_what_conditions.29. Dmcq (talk)

unbelievable WPM

I happened to have glanced over the recent WPM discussion and find myself rubbing my eyes in disbelief. That a group of, presumably, adults would bunch up against a fellow editor is very disappointing. I would simply stay away from such discussions in the future. Best of luck, Katzmik (talk) 13:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, Topology Expert. You have new messages at Msgj's talk page.
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You also have new messages at your inbox's talk page. Lol. Martin 14:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it's just a joke. There was no party :) Martin 11:06, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I am glad (and in any case, I don't think people would travel half way around the world to go to such a party)! Topology Expert (talk) 13:19, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:AN

No inappropriate admin action has been taken. Your attitude is extremely aggressive and while that might pay dividends in the real world, you'll find that is a poor way to get anything resolved on Wikipedia. --Dweller (talk) 13:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, I'd remind you not to make personal attacks anywhere on Wikipedia, but especially on an administrators' noticeboard. Thanks. ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 13:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

TE, I have closed this discussion down. I strongly advise you not to try to reopen it. It is not going anywhere. Martin 15:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Although you did not respond to my offer, it is still open. If you want to discuss it, feel free to email me. Whatever you do, I suggest you go away, calm down for a few hours, and come back in a few hours with an unblock request. Martin 15:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, whilst this is in no way a "cool down block", if you return here and agree to stop making accusations against Moondyne (and Sarah, for that matter), then I have no objections to any admin unblocking you forthwith. ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 15:10, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Blocked

You were advised to drop the subject at WP:AN. Four administrators have told you that there is nothing in your allegations. You have continued to make attacks and troll the noticeboard, most recently by widening the scope of your allegations to include those who disagree with you.

In order to protect Wikipedia from disruption, I have blocked you from editing for two days. This wdecision was not taken lightly, but you left me with no clear other option. ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 15:01, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I will stop making accusations. But just so that you know, I don't believe that you should be an admin (but as I mentioned, I will stop contributing to that discussion; since I am currently involved in an important peer review, can I request an unblock?).

Topology Expert (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Topology Expert (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I will stop contributing to that discussion and will go on with my normal contributing (to maths articles). If I continue my so-called abuse, you may block me again (but I will have you know that you are really stupid to think that blocking me will protect Wikipedia since I am always making many constructive contributions. You probably don't understand those contributions and hence the block).

Decline reason:

Do you really think that anyone will agree to unblock you after the rudeness displayed in your unblock request? — Ice Cold Beer (talk) 18:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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Edit-conflict; I, too, would never unblock someone whose unblock request contained a personal attack. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

No in fact I didn't and I don't blame you for not unblocking me. I am just upset with the user who blocked me because from his block reason, it is clear that he thinks that I am a vandalizer and have no real value to Wikipedia in the sense that my edits are always disruptive. Of course that is his opinion but I request him to see my user page if he really thinks so. If you unblock me, I don't promise to not be angry but I am sure that words such as 'in order to protect disruption of Wikipedia' would be insulting to anybody who has created more than 25 articles (most of B class standard) and having over 1500 edits (almost 1700 to be precise). It is only recently (in the last month) that I have been involved in 2-3 conflicts but they were all centered around the same thing. This is unfortunate and maybe I deserve this block but I did not intend any of my edits to be malacious and most users have accepted this (most of these edits (in the beginning) were in fact helpful until it got to the point that admins inappropriately were against me). In this comment, I am certainly not requesting an unblock; it is up to an admin to decide whether an unblock is appropriate. But in my opinion, a block by an admin should be made after he consults another admin who has had experience with the blocked user in question. The admin who has blocked me has not had this experience and hence I would like to request that a math admin be contacted.

Topology Expert (talk) 18:33, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to User:Msgj for contacting a mathematics administrator. But I don't know whether User:CBM has read through all the discussions.

Topology Expert (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Just be patient ;) It might be better to wait for the two days to expire. It seems you are still fuming and I fear what else might happen if you are unblocked now. Martin 19:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) ::I am not fuming (if you mean angry). I calmed down after I requested to be unblocked. However, in my opinion, being blocked my an admin who has not really interacted with me, may not be an appropriate block. Basically I am saying that if a user such as Michael Hardy, Carl etc... believes that I should be blocked then fine since I have interacted with them and they are probably more familiar with my edits. On the other hand, the user who blocked me, blocked me on the basis of his opinion of me (after 1 hour of experience) and on the word of another user. Therefore, my block is unlikely to be appropriate but if the admin thinks I should be blocked, then block me. However, he should have (in my opinion) consulted an admin who I have interacted with instead of thinking that since he is an admin, he knows best.

Topology Expert (talk) 19:24, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

It appears the Michael Hardy has unblocked, and so I'll defer any judgment about the merits of the block.

In general, I don't think you can expect that every admins who doesn't edit mathematics articles will avoid you, especially when you post to a noticeboard that is aimed at admins and not at all about mathematics. We can't expect special treatment for mathematics editors any more than special treatment for humanities editors or Pokemon editors. I have never interacted with you enough to know if you are an expert or not, but as a general principle I think that experts have to make an especially strong effort to avoid making appeals to their credentials and edit collegially with everyone else. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou for the quick response and yes I learnt that admins will follow my edits (after the recent incident). I only referred to my 1500+ edits because the user who blocked me (inexplicitly) implied that I am a vandal and to protect Wikipedia, I should be blocked for 2 days. I choose the username "topology expert" as sort of an indicator that I am a topologist (in the sense that I know topology more than other math subjects) but I didn't intend to show off.

Topology Expert (talk) 19:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)