Tim Ellis RIBA

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Sleddale Hall

Hi. If you are the Tim Ellis who now owns Sleddale Hall, can I ask you to read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest? You have been removing cited information from the Sleddale Hall article, which I have reinstated. Thanks. Stronach (talk) 07:25, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Stronach. I don't know if I'm responding to you in a way that you will get this message as yours is the first message I've received and I can't find any obvious link to respond to you.

Yes I am the Tim Ellis who owns Sleddale Hall and I would like to remove any references to people forcing entry to the house in case it encourages readers of this Wikipedia page to try this themselves. I hope you understand my reasoning and I would be grateful if you would edit your contribution to reflect this.

Best regards, Tim

Hi Tim. This page Help:Contents/Getting_started might help you start to find your way about. To find my talk page, click on the blue (talk) bit after my name. Leaving messages here is fine as I have put you on my watch list: I should warn you that I am a sporadic contributor so might not always respond straight away. I'm not very au fait with the finer points of COI editing and the ramifications of how what's written here might impact on your property, so will seek advice from those more in the know, and they or I will get back to you. Cheers Stronach (talk) 21:24, 15 June 2011 (UTC) (And by the way, lucky you. I'm very envious)

Hi Stronach. Thank you for your swift reply. I tried the talk link yesterday (and again today) but am still mystified as to where I go from there to contact you.

As you might expect, there are many visitors to the house and most are genuine film fans or walkers and welcome. I am always happy to let people see inside the house if I'm there. Unfortunately there are a few who have dishonourable intentions. Only last week I found that someone had used bolt cutters to get in to one of the outbuildings although there's nothing valuable inside and as far as I could see nothing was taken and no damage caused.

Security is a constant worry and that is why I am concerned to find reference to forcing entry when the house is boarded up on a a publicly accessible and widely read website.

By the way, could you enlighten me to the meaning of COI in "COI editing"? Thanks!

Best regards, Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim Ellis RIBA (talk • contribs) 05:55, 16 June 2011

I don't see that having the information in the article is important, and so I don't see that removing it does any harm. Since there are genuine grounds for concern about publicising the information, it seems to me it may as well be removed, so I have removed it. "COI" stands for "conflict of interest", and refers to the fact that someone who has a close connection with the subject of an article (e.g. the owner of what the article is about) usually shouldn't edit that article, as they are unlikely to edit in an objective and impartial way. There are many of these abbreviations used in Wikipedia. I try to avoid using them, because I remember how confusing and unhelpful they were when I was new to editing Wikipedia, but many other people use them freely. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

One more thought on this. My judgement is that on this occasion you had legitimate concerns, and your change was reasonable. However, in general, if you are considering editing a page where you may be considered to have a conflict of interest, it is often better to post a request on the article's talk page (in this case Talk:Sleddale Hall) for someone else to make the edit. If just above the request you put {{helpme}} then that will alert people to the fact that you are asking for help, and sooner or later someone will come along and consider your request. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello and just a quick note to say thank you for reviewing my concerns and editing the article.

Best regards, Tim (Tim Ellis RIBA (talk) 05:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC))

September 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Sleddale Hall has been reverted.
Your edit here to Sleddale Hall was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed email address removed) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. Wikipedia pages should not contain personal information such as email addresses. For more information, please read Wikipedia:Biography of Living People, specifically the section about personal information.
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