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August 2013

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Warning to both parties in the edit war

Your recent editing history at Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

As a procedural note, on the talk page, add new comments to the bottom of the thread. It makes it much easier for others to follow the discussion. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 21:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

One other suggestion: make sure you use an edit summary to explain what you've changed and why. I'd also suggest not making so many changes in a single edit: that way, other editors can more easily review what you've added and, if need be, selectively undo anything problematic (like if you deleted links). —C.Fred (talk) 21:34, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

(The following copied from User talk:C.Fred.)

Regarding: [Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana]

Dear Mr. Fred,

I have received an editor warring warning. Even though I do not wish do engage in edit warring, my edits are repeatedly deleted in their entirety.

I have presented independent sources but the creator of the article do not let me to add the information because they simply do not like the facts.

He/she is operating under three different identities in Wikipedia, you can see that every time I try to add information the same version of the article is reinstated.

One of the sock puppets has been blocked for attempted outing of an editor and personal attack.

Currently the information in the article does not correspond to the facts and serves only the creators of the article who, in my view, are exploiting Wikipedia for self promotion.

I don't think that the people behind the article are going to cooperate to reach a consensus.

The other editor is very aggressive in his attacks and language which also does not make a good ground for a discussion.

What is the best approach in this situation?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Star Gazer 13 (talk) 21:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13

You are involved in an edit war; there is a dispute between you and another editor about the content of the article. The way to go forward is to discuss the matter on the talk page and reach a consensus about what should go in the article. Hopefully the discussion will bring in other editors; if not, you may need to make a request for a third opinion. —C.Fred (talk) 21:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

reply on your talk page. Star Gazer 13 (talk) 21:59, 20 August 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13

Please clarify your relationship with Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana

Greetings! It appears that you uploaded File:Bulgarian Children Choir and School march 2006.jpg to Wikimedia Commons, which you then added to the article Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana. You have also claimed that the file is your own work.

Since you are claiming to be the designer and layout artist for a program used by the choir and school, it would appear you have a conflict of interest. In the interest of disclosure, please clarify what your relationship with the school is. Otherwise, based on the evidence in the upload, we will assume you are an employee or otherwise connected with the school. Conversely, if you are independent of the choir and school, please explain how you acquired rights to the program.

Please reply here. Your talk page is on my watchlist, so I will see that you have replied. —C.Fred (talk) 23:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Greetings Fred, I am not an employee of "Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana Inc.". I don't believe I have a COI. I happen to believe it is important to the general public and to the Bulgarian community that this article is true to the facts. The published program is my own copy of an image that is not copy righted and is free for everybody to use. I am not the designer but I am not infringing on anybody's copy rights. This image does not belong to the legal entity "Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana Inc." It was created many years before the legal entity was.

I published it because it is a good illustration showing the structure of the organization at that time. There were two teachers in the school back then, Neli Hadjyiska was the second teacher and was by no means the principal, the head teacher or the creator of it all. It also shows that both teachers were parents of children attending the school because the school was a volunteer community cooperative supported by the Consulate General. It was never a private business created by any particular person. Sorry if there was any misunderstanding.

Again,I believe this article is created and protected by the current leadership and the people behind it are paid to suppress any edits that are not in sync with the organization official "history". This article is most likely a part of a larger scheme. I suspect 71.249.192.199, 74.66.235.121, Skylark2, Intern Architect, Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana are the same person. I also suspect this person is actually on a payroll in the organization and writes about him/herself and/or related people in the article. Thank you for following the case. Let me know if you have further questions.

Star Gazer 13 (talk) 03:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13

How do you know the image is not copyrighted? Or, how do you know the image has been released under a free license? —C.Fred (talk) 03:36, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

To expand on that: effectively, every image is automatically under copyright unless some event has occurred to change its license status. —C.Fred (talk) 03:40, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Wikipedia needs some kind of legal proof of free license. Is that correct? Please let me know. In the mean time I took the image off the article until the copyright issue is figured out. Thanks. Star Gazer 13 (talk) 19:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13

Bulgarian Children's Chorus and School Gergana

Hi. The difficulty we face when protecting articles when they are part of a content dispute is that, by definition, one side of the dispute will always feel that the wrong version is protected. If, on the other hand, we try to make a call as to which is the "best" version, then we're no longer acting neutrally. There is no good solution. So the procedure is to protect it in the state it is in when we find it, rather than try to choose, unless there are clear copyright or defamation problems with the current version. The protection will expire in a week, so it won't last long, but there are a few options open to you - I gather you have tried some of the dispute resolution processes, but there other others worth trying, and I'l be requesting that Checkusers look into the possible use of multiple accounts. - Bilby (talk) 10:16, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Bilby,thank you for the reply. What is the resolution option you would recommend in this particular case? My goal in editing this article is to have both points of view presented so the reader can make their own conclusion. That is why I only add facts and sources but they just get deleted.

Star Gazer 13 (talk) 22:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC) Star Gazer 13