Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.
nikthestoned (talk) 15:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Honestly you want to research before undoing my edits everything i put up is true, write their names in google and the area and you will see. Also a person is from the place they grew up not the hospital that they came out of their mother thats just stupid. How dare you just dismiss all my work as vandalism.
Also a person can be from a few places iam from newington green which is in Highbury which is in Islington which is in London which is in England which is in the UK which is in Europe.
Apologies if I was a bit hasty in the revert to Barabara Windsor however all of your additions appeared to be both in contest to the general opinion of the article itself (as in, no mention to these places had been included in the rest of the text) and nothing you added was sourced. If you feel these additions were valid feel free to add some reference to the places in the articles themselves, with some citations, and then add them to the categories you had done already. Cheers nikthestoned (alk) 06:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Or, seeing as I see you've already done the latter could you please add some reference to these places in the text and add your citations as mentioned. Then at least your edits are unlikely to get reverted by someone else....
nikthestoned (talk) 06:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Additionally, I do apologise for this and this, they were uncalled for; however so was your comment here, as the article *does* mention Islington yet *does not* mention Stoke Newington. This comment probably comes under WP:OR (and as such should probably be removed also).
nikthestoned (talk) 08:06, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
so would you agree now that iam not a vandal and that people can be classed as from a few different areas in London due to being in the borough and than in an area within the borough.
I'm saying that if you want to add information into articles that appears to be in direct contention of the facts already there you should add citations to the article, not just whack them into a bunch of categories... Most of your additions still look incorrect! E.g., the Barbara Windsor page now lists her as from Stoke Stoke Newington yet if you serch the article this information is nowhere to be seen. I'm tempted to revert these changes again until the sources are provided in the article but will trust you'll mke these additions too nikthestoned (talk) 17:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
what if you look at that barbara windor article you dont see it mention thats shes raised in stoke newington i think you need glasses mate i will paste the article here.
Born Barbara Ann Deeks, she describes her mother as ‘a Cockney snob’ who was determined that her only child should have a better start in life. Barbara said:
“My grandfather worked in the docks and I was born in the East End, but my family worked hard to get out.
“We moved to Stoke Newington when I was three and a half. There were eight of us in a house, 10 at one point. We didn’t have a bathroom or toilet, but we thought it was wonderful.
Then we moved round the corner to a pre-fab in an estate and we could pick fruit from apple and pear trees.”
Although space was cramped, the best room was always kept free for Saturday night parties. Barbara’s family made their own entertainment. She said: “We didn’t have a TV or anything like that then, but most families had an upright piano. Everyone had to take a turn, it didn’t matter if you couldn’t sing, or were shy.”
When the Second World War broke out, Barbara’s family toughed it out through the Blitz. She was evacuated to Blackpool where the family she lived with sent her to dancing lessons with their daughter.
After returning to London, Barbara started ballet and tap classes with Madame Behenna’s Juvenile Jollities at Stoke Newington Town Hall.
The troupe put on talent shows, and it was at one of these that Barbara was spotted by a scout. She said:
“I wasn’t the greatest singer or dancer, but I had a big personality.”
He told Barbara’s mother her daughter could have a career on the stage. Mrs Deeks had other ideas, replying ‘I couldn’t think of anything worse’ and informing him that Barbara was ‘going to be a foreign language telephonist’.
Barbara wouldn’t give up, and persuaded her mother to let her attend an audition.
She said: “Mum said I walked out on that stage Barbara Ann Deeks, and walked off Barbara Windsor. It was like someone waved a magic wand.”
Barbara got the highest marks in north London in her 11 plus exams, and won a place at Our Lady’s Convent in Stamford Hill. So when an agent wanted to cast Barbara in panto, she wasn’t allowed to quit school. Barbara said: “The next two years I undid all my good work academically. In the end, the Reverend Mother called my mum in and said she was going to release me because I was so dreadfully unhappy.”
Despite her reservations, Barbara’s mum agreed she could go to Aida Foster’s stage school in Golders Green. But her parents, a dressmaker and bus conductor, could only pay for one year. She said: “I wasn’t like the other girls, I was short and plump and they were all quite posh. I hated it, and I couldn’t get a foot in the door.”
After one line in panto aged 14, she got her first break, joining the chorus line of Love From Judy at the Saville Theatre in the West End. Barbara stayed in the show from 14 to 17, learning the trade.
The rest as they say is history. She moved from theatre to film, from her iconic roles in the Carry On movies, to her current status as a soap star. But she still likes to visit Hackney. She said: “Stoke Newington was in my life until I was about 22. I went back recently, my house isn’t there anymore, but the area hasn’t really changed at all. Clissold Park is wonderful. It was a favourite place of mine, I used to love the swings and zoo and concerts. I used to hang around outside the Spread Eagle pub on Newington Green, waiting for my granddad to come out and give me tuppence. They were very, very happy times.
“Hackney was always a multi-cultural place, I grew up with lots of Jewish families, and whenever I come back it’s good to see how everyone gets along.
“I love Hackney and the Olympics can only be good for the area. I remember the ‘48 Games, I was lucky enough to see the athletics, it was fabulous. It felt so important that the whole world was looking at us and I’m sure the same will be true in 2012. It would be lovely to be at the opening ceremony, I’d be so proud, I’d be in tears.”
Curriculum Vitae
1937 Born London Hospital, Whitechapel, lived in Angela St, Bethnal Green
1940 Moved to Stoke Newington, Yokely Rd, and went to Lordship Lane and St Mary’s primary schools
1952 West End debut in Love From Judy
1954 First film role in The Belles Of St Trinian’s
1963 BAFTA nomination for best actress in Sparrows Can’t Sing
1964 Appeared in first of nine Carry On films … Carry On Spying
1965 Tony award nomination for best actress in Oh, What A Lovely War on Broadway
1970 Starred as music hall legend Marie Lloyd in theatre production Sing A Rude Song
1973-75 West End revue Carry On London!
1981 Played Joe Orton’s landlady in Entertaining Mr Sloane, directed by Kenneth Williams
1994 Landed role of Peggy Mitchell in EastEnders
1999 Best Actress at British Soap Awards
2000 MBE in Millennium Honours List
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http://www.hackney.gov.uk/hackney-people-barabara-windsor.htm
The Wikipedia article.
nikthestoned (talk) 18:54, 3 June 2011 (UTC)