the lipizzaner horses mentioned in the movie crimson tide, the argument was two fold. one was where they are from. the breed.. also whether or not they are born all black then become all white later as they mature what is the truth about these well trained horses that were almost brought to extinction except General George s Patton saved them single handedly. (Shootload1911 (talk) 11:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC))