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Kanawha County, West Virginia ‎

Hey there- I need to know how you think it would be best to let folks know that the list on many of the WV county pages for Unincorporated communities is incomplete/partial. Some of the counties have well over 100 unincorporated communities and leaving the last entry of a list stating to see a full list below isnt really immediately obvious that the list is partial....ANY ideas are of course welcomed. I very much want to improve the flow of the WV county pageswCoal town guy (talk)

Add text above or below the list about the list being incomplete...maybe say "The following is a partial list of known unincorporated communities". It shouldn't be included in the section name, since it is reflected in the Table Of Contents at the top of the article. You might want to create more columns so the list takes up less vertical space. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:19, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

By the way, the only reason I was doing some cleanup of a few WV articles was because of Buckwild (TV series). I had a feeling there would be a mass influx of readers before that show was first aired, so I cleaned up Sissonville, West Virginia and put a watch on some related article for vandalism. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:23, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

GREAT IDEA!! I actually thought that another possibility in some cases would be to shorten the lusts per se and then, as you describe, have an intro stationg the list below is partial, the complete may be found etc etc etc . Many thanks also for the look out on SissonvilleCoal town guy (talk) 01:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I didnt put the information in there. I tried removing the stump speech data about swell folks and family fun. It was a new user by the name of KanawhaCo. UNLESS I missed it, are you telling me that its OK, to have swell people and fun places in an article about a county??? I have never ever provided a phone number or told the world a place was "swell" (in an article)Coal town guy (talk) 13:59, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmmmm, last night the "diff" looked like you did it. Now that I check it through the history link...it doesn't it. Maybe the newer diff has some quirks? • Sbmeirow • Talk •

See my talk page about what happened. However, we do need to be careful about removing all of the data. I agree 100% about the refs and notable people. HOWEVER in the event that some of those people reside in the county, they do belong.Coal town guy (talk) 19:37, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

"Notable people" sections need proof of notability on Wikipedia, so EITHER their name need to be wikized to their article or there needs to be a reference to prove notability. That section had neither, so I removed all of them. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 19:44, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I understand totally and I agree. As this is a newby, do you think they know that? I can look up some of the names, and would be willing to do so gladly. However, it is irksome to have to remove that type of data. WV gets its share of vandalism in addition to thisCoal town guy (talk) 19:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Double checked. A majority are indeed from Kanawha County. I have wiki linked themCoal town guy (talk) 20:00, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Sleepy Eye, Minnesota

Hey- Love the look of the new page. Is there a reason why the postmark was remoived? I think anyone would agree that Sleepy Eye is a rather unique name...Coal town guy (talk) 13:45, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

The "look" is modeled after how I did the small towns in the county where I grew up, see the list at Template:Marion_County,_Kansas. Each one has different amounts of progress. Lehigh and Peabody have a similar Gallery. Most of the city articles in Kansas have a similar look, since I did a quick cleanup of everyone one in the last couple of years. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, for what it is worth, the "look" is appreciated. I would like to learn it and apply it to some WV communities. IMO, there is a HUGE need for this, a standard "look". Which by the way, is a positive observation. My goal has been to document the communities in WV, KY, VA and PA which by and large most ignore as they are not populated enough, which is really ignorant of the history contained there. Many thanks. I am not quite 1 year into Wikipedia, but after creating over 2100 articles, I feel there is always room for improvement. Coal town guy (talk) 01:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't think the postmark belongs in the article, but I won't touch it either if you want it to stay. I'm not sure how I even ended up looking at that article, before I started watching it. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion regarding WikiProject Kansas

I have started a discussion about making WikiProject Kansas a standalone project separate from WikiProject United States. Please join the discussion at the WikiProject Kansas talk page.

You are receiving this notice because you are in Category:WikiProject Kansas members.

Thanks, Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 01:10, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Kansas

Hi there, writing to you because you are a member of the wikiproject kansas. created a GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives, Museums) group for kansas, mailing list for topeka and a facebook page linked from here Wikipedia:Meetup/Topeka. would like to organize some more meetups at different historic sites in topeka (and even other places if we can find someone with a car), go there and take photos, collect information and work on the articles. It could be a great group event. please let me know what you think, and sign up on the mailing list if you like. Also if you know of GLAM sites anywhere in kansas, please add them to the list. Also I would like to organize a photo contest for Kansas. you can send me a mail if you like as well, my mail is on my user page.

thanks, James Michael DuPont (talk) 14:09, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Kansas Jayhawks History

This is the second time I've been through this. Please read the talk page before editing.

I fixed the date on the history of Osceola asking KU to change their mascot and someone went back and "fixed" it to the incorrect date again and then of course blamed me for vandalism.

The current article says "In September 1861, the town of Osceola, Missouri, burned to the ground by Jayhawkers during the Sacking of Osceola, asked the University of Kansas to remove the Jayhawk as its mascot.[5][6" Which means two things. 1. Osceola, MO burned in 1861 and 2. Osceola, MO asked KU to change there mascot because the Jayhawk was offensive in Sept. 2011. Please read that sentence carefully.

I changed 1861 to 2011 because 1861 is wrong. The town of Osceola was burned in 1861, but the date in this sentence is referring to the date that Osceola asked KU to change there mascot. And since KU wasn't around in 1861 that would be impossible. The correct date is Sept. 2011. Yes the town burned in 1861, but this is not referring to that. All it takes is a simple English understanding to figure that out. I am changing it back again. And if it is changed again I will just reword the sentence into two.69.4.193.2 (talk) 12:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

You should have changed the wording to clarify the entire sentence. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 17:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

West, Texas

  Re Talk:West, Texas, kindly consult {{inuse}} and comply.
--Jerzy•t 01:01, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

So far, it has been over 3 hours, and you still haven't made any changes. This is a current event, thus you either do you edits quickly or come back on another day when things are slower. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 01:21, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiki dump

Hello, For one of my University research I need some Wikipedia db dumps. I need to know for each page witch users contributed and how much of last version of a page is created by them. On the other hand I need to know witch other page the user has contributed. So I can estimate accuracy of the content of the page using this information. Thanks in advance. 06:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.225.33.106 (talk)

Sorry, I can't help you! I've only downloaded the dumps to use with existing Windows programs. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 13:00, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifications box replacement prototypes released

Hey Sbmeirow; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:54, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:See also

Is for internal WP links only. 'A bulleted list, preferably alphabetized, of internal links to related Wikipedia articles.' So I undid your edit here[1]....William 11:44, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Your reversion[2] of my earlier edit is wrong. Per See also 'As a general rule, the 'See also' section should not repeat links which appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes.' Chisholm Trail is linked to in the article at least 3 times....William 00:07, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

ok. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 03:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

My long term plans is incorporating each township into the intro for each city. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 04:52, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Category:Members of the Kansas Legislature

Hi-One of the editors iis creating categories about former Kansas State Senators and former Members of the Kansas House of Representatives. I think the categories are not needed. Ant comments? Suggestions? Thanks-RFD (talk) 17:06, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Not sure at this moment. I'll reply tonight. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 18:02, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi-I let Jmd.Tmp know of my concerns about the categories. Wikipedia is getting too many categories. Also the categories of the members of the two houses of the New York Legislature have over 1000 people listed so it is impractical. Thanks-RFD (talk) 21:10, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Please leave an example of some other existing states, so I can look at it. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 04:50, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Junction City, Kansas

It seems redundant to me to say Junction City is a city (obviously) and then mention it is the county seat (which is always a city). I thought I was making the sentence more readable and succinct. Eodcarl (talk) 13:18, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

I've seen many ways of doing it on Wikipedia. I never have liked the previous way of doing it with the word "in", which you did remove. The reason that I prefer "(name) is a city and county seat of ..." is that "county seat" doesn't specify the official name for the type of populated place. Though in Kansas all incorporated cities are called a "city", in other states the population size may determine if the populated place is called a "village" or "town" or "city" or ???. The "county seat" only means the government for the county resides in the populated place. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 18:39, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

All good points. It begs the question what it really means to say a place is a city. Perhaps it seems even more redundant to me since "city" is already in the name, and I believe without exception a county seat is an incorportated city. However, there is not particularly wrong with the current wording, in my opinion. Eodcarl (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Infobox recurring event

your edit would have worked if you would have changed 'header25' to 'label25' and 'data26' to 'data25'. you almost had it, but missed changing the header to a label. Frietjes (talk) 22:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! • Sbmeirow • Talk • 06:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

C versus Start assessments

I will take your input under consideration in assessments going forward. The test of whether an article is substantial is somewhat subjective. I was basing my assessments based on length and number of citations, rather than whether every section under WP Cities was addressed. To me, C-class is a relatively easy class to meet, whereas a B-article needs to be fairly complete and clean. I will change my ways at least in addressing WP Cities class though. Okheric (talk) 15:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Abilene, Kansas

I fixed/updated the Abilene, KS article regarding the number of cattle in 1871. I used 3 different sources and placed the necessary disclaimers. Please, in future if you dispute some referenced facts, especially with me, just let me know. I love to research things and I will get to the bottom of it and fix it. Just don't revert or undo as that does both of us a disservice as it seems from your history that you are a conscientious editor and I take things personally some time. Don't take this the wrong way, as I do appreciate that you didn't "just" revert but that you explained at least. So I knew where to start. Thanks, again speednat (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Leith, North Dakota

You deleted my addition to the Leith Page because you said the page wasn't about Craig Cobb and his white supremacist views. True, but then why didn't you delete the entire paragraph about he and his compadres? Ray.lowry

I previously stated on the TALK page for Leith that the history section needs to be thinned down. Your new text was purely about him as person, which belongs in the Craig Cobb article. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 04:22, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

I thinned it down, similar to how Newtown, Connecticut city article has a brief description but the details are located in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. This is the typical approach in Wikipedia. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 05:23, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Good decision to get rid of the bulk of the Craig Cobb stuff. Looking back on the page's history, I can see why this one is on your radar screen. Ray.lowry 22:43, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Monster (company)

I wanted to make sure you knew that I have a conflict of interest on the Monster page. I have previously disclosed on the Talk page of the article and it has a "connected contributor" tag at the top, but I still like to be doubly sure editors participating in the discussion know. That is why I aim to bring the article up to the GA standard, is to make sure it is done properly and neutrally, despite my COI. CorporateM (Talk) 13:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Semiconductor packages

Please see the corresponding discussion thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronics. Thanks, Hqb (talk) 14:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Phil Robertson

Please do not lift almost verbatim sections from articles as you did in the Morals Clause section of the Phil Robertson article. Hu (talk) 17:15, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

It was very very close, but not a direct copy. Thanks for the rewrite. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 17:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Duck Commander

Never say something is spam when it isn't. Sounds like you aren't liking it. For one thing I am not affiliated with anything on this navbox so that's definitely an over exaggeration. Do you have a legitimate reason why you don't like the navbox besides not liking it. The navbox might should be centrally about Duck Dynasty not Duck Commander but still it fits the guidlines on navboxes. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 20:03, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

The article is about the show, NOT the business, thus the wikilink to the business in the article is more than enough! The template is not needed, because all that information can be found, or should be found in the Duck Commander article. It is SPAM to me, plus my 1st amendment right allows me to call it SPAM too. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 20:17, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

First Amendment right? This is the internet. American freedom doesn't apply on Wikipedia or on the internet. For it is worldwide. Next time cite Wikipedia guidelines. Also you remove the link on the navbox first before you remove the navbox on the article. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 20:25, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't care if you have more edits than I do. You see all the barnstars I have. You see I have rollback rights. Do you have it? I am a respectful editor and I don't normally like to brag about that...but calling with what I have included spam provokes me to show it off because it's offensive to me to say that I included spam in a site that's very important to me...and I don't need you telling me what I should have done or what I included shouldn't be on here. If you feel that way. Put it on TFD and I know you will be a minority because I know what's allowed for navboxes. Happy New Year. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 20:50, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

You are right. I am sorry. The navbox is totally redundant to Duck Commander. Except for maybe List of Duck Dynasty episodes and Duck the Halls: A Robertson Family Christmas. Oh wait! Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:04, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

It could be argued that I was wrong to remove it from the Duck Commander related article, but what pushed me into calling it "spam" was seeing it in the city and duck call articles. Just because there are wikilinks in the navbox, doesn't mean that EVERY wikilinked article deserves that navbox. At most, the primary articles could have the navbox, but not the "see also" type of wikilinked articles. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:09, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

That's fine. The navbox was in a start up stage. Any editor had to right to remove it. I had the right to disagree too...but I am not really. The see also was the least important part IMO. Although I would probably disagree if the channels removed if there isn't really a article on the Duck Commander tv series yet. Hopefully somebody can be bold on creating it if it's notable so those channels will not be a necessary wikilink. Also I am pretty sure all the Robertson family might be notable to have a article like Sadie Robertson if we tried hard enough. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:16, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

I don't have any issues about "see also" text and wikilinks in ANY navbox, because as long as it's useful or helpful in some way and related to the topic then they its fine by me, but at the same time I feel that navboxes should ONLY be added to articles which are the primary topic of the navbox. If the lesser-related wikilinks in a navbox don't have an extremely-close relationship to the primary subject matter of the navbox, then I feel that it shouldn't be included in those lesser articles, primarily to prevent articles from being flooded with lesser-related navboxes. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:43, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Warnings