Sanaa Faizi 01:26, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Ok, so in tutorial we discussed that we could research the "lesser capybara"! If you wiki it you will see it's a pretty short stub that we can work with.
We will have the following sections:
- mating habits
- conservation status
- differences b/w capybara and lesser capybara
Under the differences there will be size, behaviour and diet differences we can examine.
Just post which one you want to do (mating, conservation, size, behaviour, diet)
Ronda.lo (talk) 01:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
I'll talk about the differences of Diet then. --Mmb1228 (talk) 01:13, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Lulu: I'm gonna talk about the differences of Size then. Liuyin. Chen (talk) 01:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Alright I can edit the general introduction and start off with the mating habits. Sanaa Faizi 02:10, 8 August 2012 (UTC) Sanaa. Faizi (talk)
Ok! Don't forget that there will be similarities too so that's ok to note as well... Also when do you guys want to start planning stuff in the sandbox?? Thursday? Ronda.lo (talk) 01:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Whoever wrote that comment about the general intro, put 4 "~" after the end of your sentence so we know who's talking. Also, we talked about in tutorial how the intro can be separated from "It breeds year-round" onwards, and separating aspects about mating, conservation status and genetics into different sections Ronda.lo (talk) 01:24, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
If everyone goes on the assignment website page, I put in our topic. If you click on it it will direct you straight to the page we are going to edit. And Thursday is fine for me. Whoever is putting in the final edits just make sure you take a screen print of the original "Lesser Capybara" page because we have to hand in the before and after. --Mmb1228 (talk) 01:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
General intro and mating habits was me (Sanaa)Sanaa Faizi 01:33, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Sanaa. Faizi (talk)
How is everyone planning on doing the background research on this?Sanaa Faizi 01:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Sanaa. Faizi (talk)
@Sanaa: ok, intro is just going to be pretty short I think, so we can cut off the beginning from "It breeds year-round" and separate everything into diff sections. And I guess google the information and try to find stuff on other websites?? or look in animal journals
I think I'm gonna do the geographic locations and habitats actually. Also, conservation status is verified as "data deficient", meaning no info about it, so we can not include that. So differences in behaviour are left, unless anyone else has any other suggestions regarding sections we could add. Ronda.lo (talk) 01:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with ronda. There isn't much to say about its conservation status anyway. So I'll even out the 'Introduction'. Followed by Ronda's 'Locations & Habitats', followed by Lulu's'Differences b/w capybara and lesser capybara' (Priya can add further sub sections in the differences?)and then finally 'Mating patterns'. Sound good?Sanaa Faizi 01:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Sanaa. Faizi (talk)
Where would my section go? Under Lulu's? --Mmb1228 (talk) 01:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Just to clarify, Differences could easily be one broad topic with sub topics within. So far, section is shared by lulu. priya and mariel. Placement within is not that important for now.Sanaa Faizi 01:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)Sanaa. Faizi (talk)
Sanaa, I think if you make sure there's a space between the 4 "~" and your comment, it should sign your name properly. Yeah I was thinking differences was separated into one section, with multiple sub headings underneath. The order of which diet, behaviour etc come in I guess depends on who does it first haha Ronda.lo (talk) 01:52, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Test. Sanaa Faizi 01:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC) Sanaa. Faizi (talk)
it's easier to read if the difference section have sub headings underneath. Do we need to put all the info we found and edited into sandbox on Thursday? Liuyin. Chen (talk) 02:10, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
We can always see how to arrange the information on Thursday, that is once we have the appropriate content. Just get the to the actual material first. Arranging will fall into place later. By Thursday, get started at the very least. You can work during the tutorial as well. Sanaa. Faizi (talk) Sanaa Faizi 02:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
1. Brief Introduction
2. Locations and Habitats
3. Differences between the 2 kinds (Capybara and Lesser Capybara)
--> Sub categorized into: Lesser Capybara's (A. Body structure/Size, B. Diet & C. Behaviour)
(Depending on the content, maybe created under individual sections)
4. Mating habits and patterns
Sanaa. Faizi (talk) Sanaa Faizi 02:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Since there isn't much we can research about Lesser Capybaras, I guess we're changing our topic? Any ideas? Mmb1228 (talk) 02:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking about historical sites, maybe like those famous tourists’ sites or something like historical buildings. I’m not sure if you guys find this interesting or not. I think it’s probably gonna be easier to find information on these topics. Liuyin. Chen (talk) 02:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that may be easier. We'll have to find an article on a historical site that doesn't have too much information on it then. Mmb1228 (talk) 02:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
(copy paste from skype chat log)
[10:07:49 PM] *** Ronda added liuliuchen1202 ***
[10:08:35 PM] Ronda: ok so sanaa isnt going to be online and idk about priya so
[10:08:37 PM] Ronda: lets jsut start
[10:08:45 PM] Ronda: what were wegonna talk about again
[10:08:59 PM] Mariel Berania: our topic lol
[10:09:08 PM] liuliuchen1202: we were talking bout coffee beans...
[10:12:17 PM] Ronda: oh yeah diff styles of coffeeÉÉ
[10:12:20 PM] Ronda: ÉÉ
[10:12:22 PM] Ronda: ?
[10:12:34 PM] Ronda: so do you guys wanna look up specific stlyes of coffee then or
[10:13:23 PM] liuliuchen1202: I think its interesting, as long as we can find information about it
[10:13:32 PM] *** Mariel Berania added priyadiddi ***
[10:14:03 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah i'm okay with talking about coffee
[10:15:42 PM] Ronda: mmk how about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafe_breva
[10:16:49 PM] Ronda: wait nvm taths kinda obscure
[10:17:35 PM] Mariel Berania: wait so if we're editing a stub on coffee beans, what exactly will we be writing about?
[10:17:56 PM] Ronda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qishr
[10:18:10 PM] Ronda: idk...
[10:18:19 PM] Ronda: i mean in this respect tbh i think its easier to talk about animals
[10:18:25 PM] Ronda: then theres already categories we can talk about
[10:18:42 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah i think that would be better
[10:19:59 PM] liuliuchen1202: then lets pick one then
[10:20:30 PM] Ronda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-toed_elephant_shrew
[10:20:34 PM] Ronda: how about that lol
[10:21:27 PM] Mariel Berania: lol yeah i'm fine with that
[10:21:37 PM] liuliuchen1202: Im ok with it too
[10:22:11 PM] Ronda: ok.....
[10:22:22 PM] Ronda: so shall we stick to what sections we claimed before??
[10:23:03 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah i guess we should since we all had a section to write about anway
[10:23:09 PM] Ronda: ok
[10:23:21 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok
[10:23:50 PM] Ronda: can i copy and paste this skype convo to the talk page so we have proof that we did work??? lol
[10:24:05 PM] Mariel Berania: LOL yeah
[10:24:09 PM] Ronda: alrightyyy
[10:24:35 PM] Mariel Berania: i found a site that can be helpful http://www.theanimalfiles.com/mammals/elephant_shrews/four_toed_elephant_shrew.html
[10:24:55 PM] Ronda: yeah!!! i saw, and if you google it there's lots of info
[10:24:59 PM] Ronda: on other websites
[10:25:30 PM] Mariel Berania: ok good. as long as there's information out there
[10:25:34 PM] Ronda: there's actually quite a lot of peer reviewed articles on it too i think
[10:25:39 PM] liuliuchen1202: http://thewebsiteofeverything.com/animals/mammals/Macroscelidea/Macroscelididae/Petrodromus/Petrodromus-tetradactylus.html I think this is a good one to start with,
[10:25:39 PM] Ronda: yeah it should be fine
[10:25:45 PM] liuliuchen1202: lots of general info
[10:26:03 PM] Ronda: oooh nice yeah
[10:26:05 PM] Ronda: we can add it all in lol
[10:27:05 PM] liuliuchen1202: so how are we gonna do this, are we meeting up after the essay's done? and before that we should concentrate on our essay?
[10:28:02 PM] Mariel Berania: i guess we can talk about it again on tuesday and yeah just focus on our essays for now
[10:28:05 PM] Ronda: sure?? actually is everyone free to meet up on wednesday in person like in the loibrary or something
[10:28:32 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah, im okay to meet up wednesday
[10:28:44 PM] liuliuchen1202: yeah...I have class till 1 and im free after that
[10:30:25 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay, so we can meet up around that time then
[10:31:34 PM] Ronda: ok is 2pm ok then
[10:32:02 PM] liuliuchen1202: yep
[10:32:21 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah
[10:32:33 PM] liuliuchen1202: we should have our sections ready when we meet up right? at least most of it?
[10:32:54 PM] Ronda: yeah!!! and then we can put it together on the website
[10:33:17 PM] Mariel Berania: yeap and maybe peer edit each other's work?
[10:33:22 PM] Ronda: yep yep that sounds good
[10:34:16 PM] Mariel Berania: alright then! and i changed our topic on the class wikipedia page :)
[10:35:19 PM] liuliuchen1202: finally we have a topic now !!!
[10:35:44 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah! :D
[10:35:58 PM] Mariel Berania: So are we going to add pictures in our stub
[10:36:13 PM] Ronda: yey!!!! uh yeah itd be nice
[10:36:19 PM] liuliuchen1202: we should, there are lots of them on the internet
[10:36:20 PM] Ronda: we can find out how to code that in later lol
[10:36:35 PM] liuliuchen1202: lol yeah... that shouldn't be too hard
[10:36:46 PM] Mariel Berania: okay. yeah hopfuly not
[10:37:04 PM] Mariel Berania: oh! do you guys know where we can find the readings for the wiki assignment?
[10:37:18 PM] Mariel Berania: i mean the list of readings the prof gave us
[10:37:34 PM] Ronda: uhh it might be under wikipedia assignment
[10:39:15 PM] Ronda: oh its under assignment description subheading
[10:39:19 PM] Ronda: he linekd to them
[10:39:32 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay. thank you!
[10:41:42 PM] Ronda: no prob
[10:41:56 PM] Ronda: anyways i gotta leave to wash dishes but text ifany probs ok!!
[10:42:01 PM] Ronda: see youuu guys
[10:42:18 PM] Mariel Berania: alright then. see you guys tuesday
[10:42:27 PM] liuliuchen1202: see ya! good luck on your essay!
[10:42:37 PM] Mariel Berania: you too!
[10:43:26 PM] Ronda: you too
Ronda.lo (talk) 02:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
guys, jsyk i c&p the real article into sanaa's sandbox and added the sections and names of each person in charge of it Ronda.lo (talk) 01:43, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Hey guys, here's the sites I found with really helpful information. http://www.theanimalfiles.com/mammals/elephant_shrews/four_toed_elephant_shrew.html
http://gvikenya.wildlifedirect.org/2011/03/16/four-toed-elephant-shrew-found/
http://www.mammalsrus.com/eutheria/macroscelidea/macroscelidea.html
http://www.science.smith.edu/departments/Biology/VHAYSSEN/msi/pdf/682_Petrodromus_tetradactylus.pdf
http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Petrodromus%20tetradactylus.html Mmb1228 (talk) 19:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thanks! my section is unexpectedly a bit short so i'm gonna add a few more minor sections Ronda.lo (talk) 20:54, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
in the above links that mariel listed, the 3rd link only pertains to elephant shrews, not specific to the four toed one, so we`d better not use it Ronda.lo (talk) 21:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Okay, we are doing good so far. Let us all check the sandbox at 10pm. Any changes after will be made Thursday morning at 10 am library. See you all. Sanaa.faizi (talk)Sanaa Faizi 21:49, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
(copy pasted form skype chat log)
[5:04:21 PM] Mariel Berania: hey so Sanaa said she's making her way home now and will go on skype right away
[5:04:33 PM] Ronda: ok!
[5:04:39 PM] Priya Diddi: alrighttt
[5:04:42 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok!
[5:05:17 PM] Mariel Berania: so did guys finish your parts already?
[5:05:22 PM] Ronda: haha im still writing mine
[5:05:27 PM] liuliuchen1202: not yet..
[5:05:36 PM] Ronda: but i see you anf priya have posted yours
[5:05:37 PM] Priya Diddi: me and mariel r done
[5:05:47 PM] Ronda: did you get the references to workÉ
[5:06:01 PM] Priya Diddi: yesss
[5:06:43 PM] Mariel Berania: yeap. so when you edit in sanaa's sandbox you highlight what you want to cite, then click the tab that said cite and bar will slide down. click reference and choose the type of source you used
[5:08:26 PM] Ronda: okk
[5:08:36 PM] Ronda: uhh did you guys edit each others work yet
[5:08:43 PM] Priya Diddi: yee we did
[5:08:46 PM] Ronda: ok
[5:08:51 PM] Priya Diddi: and its on the sitee
[5:08:58 PM] Ronda: ill editthem too then, did you want me to just make the changes here for you to see first
[5:09:12 PM] Priya Diddi: hmm it doesnt matterr
[5:09:25 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah you can just go ahead and edit it, either way is fine
[5:09:28 PM] Ronda: ok
[5:10:18 PM] liuliuchen1202: Im gonna be done in an hour or so, we are gonna edit each other's work tonight right?
[5:10:30 PM] Priya Diddi: hmm i wont be home after
[5:10:40 PM] Ronda: its ok i can edit it
[5:10:40 PM] Priya Diddi: im goin around 6 630
[5:10:45 PM] Ronda: thats ok
[5:10:48 PM] liuliuchen1202: thats ok
[5:10:59 PM] liuliuchen1202: em we can still look at it tmr..
[5:11:03 PM] Priya Diddi: hmm okk!
[5:11:13 PM] Priya Diddi: r we gonnas meet foor 10 tomorrorw thenÉ
[5:11:20 PM] Ronda: thats fien by me
[5:11:28 PM] Mariel Berania: yeap so and just finalize everything and make sure we're not missing anything
[5:11:35 PM] Priya Diddi: yuppp
[5:11:39 PM] Priya Diddi: im ok withj 10!
[5:11:45 PM] Priya Diddi: u guys jus lemme noe tho
[5:11:46 PM] liuliuchen1202: where are we meeting again?
[5:11:55 PM] Ronda: shall wemeet in libraryÉÉ
[5:11:56 PM] Mariel Berania: we can meet in the library
[5:11:58 PM] Ronda: ok
[5:11:59 PM] Priya Diddi: yeee!
[5:12:01 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok!
[5:17:06 PM] Ronda: i edited your behaviour section priya, so u can go and take alook at it
[5:17:18 PM] Priya Diddi: hmm alrightt!
[5:17:20 PM] Priya Diddi: :)
[5:20:20 PM] Ronda: mariel, i edited yours; however there were some weird parts i wanted to clarify
[5:20:47 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay
[5:20:50 PM] Ronda: In Africa, ants and termites are their most important preys, but also feed on plant material. In Kenya, their diet varies on termites, plant matter, centipedes, ants, crickets and cockroaches, millipedes, spiders, and other similar creatures. Some of the predators of the four-toed shrews are snakes, raptors, and carnivores, and some cases, domestic cats.[8]
[5:21:06 PM] Ronda: so, these shrews only live in africa, so it wouldnt make sense to say in africa right
[5:21:14 PM] Ronda: unless you were talking about a specific part of africa
[5:21:30 PM] Ronda: otherwise, if you are talking about africa, you mean to say that these are their most improtant prey in general
[5:22:05 PM] Mariel Berania: ooh right. I'll look back to the referrence i used
[5:22:32 PM] Ronda: would it be accurate to say: They feed primarily on ants and termites, but also feed on plant material.
[5:22:34 PM] Ronda: ok
[5:22:46 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah i think that's better
[5:23:11 PM] Ronda: ok
[5:24:40 PM] Mariel Berania: so in the referrrence it just says in Africa, so there's no specific place
[5:24:57 PM] Priya Diddi: so then u wudnt need to put it in
[5:24:59 PM] Priya Diddi: i guess
[5:25:10 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay, that's fine then
[5:26:43 PM] Ronda: ok i thought so
[5:30:12 PM] Priya Diddi: kkk
[5:30:17 PM] Priya Diddi: wut elseee
[5:32:13 PM] Mariel Berania: wait, Ronda did you already change it or should I?
[5:32:23 PM] Ronda: i didnt yet so you can go ahead for that
[5:32:26 PM] Ronda: i already edited the rest of it
[5:32:46 PM] Priya Diddi: okk sos idont need to edit it right
[5:32:46 PM] Priya Diddi: ?
[5:32:47 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay then, should I leave the Kenya part of take it out?
[5:33:27 PM] *** Mariel Berania added Sanaa Faizi ***
[5:33:38 PM] *** Group call ***
[5:39:00 PM] liuliuchen1202: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial
[insert hour long skype voice log here about editing the page!!!!!]
Ronda.lo (talk) 22:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
[6:12:49 PM] liuliuchen1202: hey is four-toed sengi the samething as four-toed elephant shrews?
[6:13:04 PM] Ronda: i believe so
[6:13:44 PM] liuliuchen1202: okk thanks
[6:14:59 PM] Ronda: np
[6:36:40 PM] liuliuchen1202: http://researcharchive.calacademy.org/research/bmammals/eshrews/synopsis.html here is a site I think its helpful. it has some other sections we dont have
[6:37:13 PM] Ronda: oooh ok
[6:37:39 PM] Ronda: wait but these are not 4 toed
[6:37:45 PM] Ronda: just regular elephant shrews
[6:38:24 PM] liuliuchen1202: I mean just some of the gernral info about elephat shrews
[6:39:05 PM] liuliuchen1202: we can compare the 4 toed with the regular ones in some of the sections we are doing
[6:40:13 PM] Ronda: oh ok
[6:40:57 PM] liuliuchen1202: hey check out this one http://www.science.smith.edu/msi/pdf/682_Petrodromus_tetradactylus.pdf
[6:46:35 PM] Ronda: haha yeah its alreayd been cited
[6:47:08 PM] liuliuchen1202: oops..didnt see it..lol.
[6:47:30 PM] Ronda: oh yeah make sure you check when you embed your references that if we have alreayd used them, you should just copy past the [1] code
[6:47:36 PM] Ronda: if you cant find it, just let me know
[6:48:15 PM] liuliuchen1202: kk... how to cite stuff that the author cited?
[6:52:56 PM] Ronda: to reference your sources i mean, in your writing
[6:53:13 PM] liuliuchen1202: kk
Ronda.lo (talk) 23:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
[8/15/2012 10:26:44 PM] Mariel Berania: Hey, so how's everyone doing with their part?
[8/15/2012 10:27:19 PM] Sanaa Faizi: the referencing is annoying
[8/15/2012 10:28:04 PM] liuliuchen1202: I still need to edit my part...
[8/15/2012 10:28:26 PM] Mariel Berania: do want me to edit it?
[8/15/2012 10:28:30 PM] Sanaa Faizi: we'll review and finalize tmr....so far so good. Doing the best at an intro at the moment
[8/15/2012 10:28:46 PM] Mariel Berania: oh yeah and referencing is annoying (worry)
[8/15/2012 10:28:54 PM] liuliuchen1202: Do we have enough for every section?
[8/15/2012 10:29:01 PM] Sanaa Faizi: oh...sure do whatever you feel is necessary.
[8/15/2012 10:29:28 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah I think we do.
[8/15/2012 10:29:31 PM] Ronda: i think its pretty good
[8/15/2012 10:29:38 PM] Ronda: comapratively to what it had before lol
[8/15/2012 10:29:52 PM] Sanaa Faizi: yes huge improvement
[8/15/2012 10:29:57 PM] liuliuchen1202: lol thats true
[8/15/2012 10:30:06 PM] Sanaa Faizi: remember its not how much but 'professional writing
[8/15/2012 10:30:21 PM] Ronda: yes
[8/15/2012 10:32:04 PM] Sanaa Faizi: **note to all: please proof read and edit grammatical errors in each other's sections....making sure it doesn't sound to fancy. Direct and simple.
[8/15/2012 10:32:20 PM] Sanaa Faizi: Those who are finished that is :)
[8/15/2012 10:32:30 PM] Ronda: yep
[8/15/2012 10:32:32 PM] Mariel Berania: okay :)
[8/15/2012 10:36:27 PM] Sanaa Faizi: Ronda: pefer to sleep under dense brush...shouldn't that be bush?
[8/15/2012 10:37:49 PM] Ronda: oh whoops i think so
[8/15/2012 10:37:58 PM] Ronda: altho i think the website specifically said brush
[8/15/2012 10:38:03 PM] Ronda: so i wanst rly sure??
[8/15/2012 10:38:03 PM] Ronda: lol
[8/15/2012 10:38:42 PM] Sanaa Faizi: hmm....I think go with your instinct....there's no such thing as brush
[8/15/2012 10:38:48 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah in most of the sites i read it said brish
[8/15/2012 10:38:49 PM] Ronda: no there is
[8/15/2012 10:38:59 PM] Ronda: but like it does sound like it should be bush so
[8/15/2012 10:39:19 PM] Sanaa Faizi: ahh...well, see whatever suits best
[8/15/2012 10:42:43 PM] Mariel Berania: offsprings is one word right?
[8/15/2012 10:42:50 PM] Ronda: yes
[8/15/2012 10:42:52 PM] Ronda: but no s
[8/15/2012 10:42:56 PM] Ronda: its just offspring
[8/15/2012 10:43:04 PM] Mariel Berania: okay tnks
[8/15/2012 10:43:10 PM] Ronda: np
[8/15/2012 10:43:14 PM] Sanaa Faizi: oh yes...thank you
[8/15/2012 10:43:23 PM] Sanaa Faizi: wait...we both made the mistake
[8/15/2012 10:44:08 PM] Mariel Berania: oh lol i just saw it while reading
[8/15/2012 10:46:30 PM] Mariel Berania: wait there's double ups in the referrence list again
[8/15/2012 10:46:43 PM] Ronda: yeah i think they are from lulus page shes fixing them
[8/15/2012 10:47:04 PM] Ronda: oh wait
[8/15/2012 10:47:08 PM] Ronda: they are from sanaas too
[8/15/2012 10:47:28 PM] Sanaa Faizi: yeaa..trying to figure how tht works
[8/15/2012 10:47:29 PM] liuliuchen1202: I fixed mine
[8/15/2012 10:47:39 PM] Sanaa Faizi: how do you combine them?
[8/15/2012 10:47:42 PM] liuliuchen1202: I think I did...lol..
[8/15/2012 10:47:44 PM] liuliuchen1202: its confusing
[8/15/2012 10:47:51 PM] Mariel Berania: lol
[8/15/2012 10:48:21 PM] Ronda: guys, when you first make the reference from a site
[8/15/2012 10:48:22 PM] Mariel Berania: umm you just copy and paste the one you did first to the next sentence you are going to cite with the same referrence
[8/15/2012 10:48:33 PM] Ronda: you have to add the Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).
[example of reference inserted here]
should be
[2]
[8/15/2012 10:52:05 PM] Ronda: then when you have to use that site again, just use the code
blahblahblah. [2]
[example of reference inserted here]
[8/15/2012 10:52:45 PM] Sanaa Faizi: okay....i'll give that a shot.
[8/15/2012 10:52:50 PM] Sanaa Faizi: thank u
[8/15/2012 10:52:59 PM] Sanaa Faizi: Worst case, you can show me in person tomorrow and i'll fix it then :)
[8/15/2012 10:53:17 PM] Ronda: no prob, just make sure weall check if someones cited the website already
[8/15/2012 10:53:20 PM] Ronda: and ok!!! no worries man
[8/15/2012 10:54:50 PM] Sanaa Faizi: Lulu 8:55 Hart house?
[8/15/2012 10:55:05 PM] Sanaa Faizi: lol apologies for being off topic
[8/15/2012 10:55:29 PM] Mariel Berania: lol it's okay
[8/15/2012 10:56:44 PM] liuliuchen1202: yep I'll see you there at 8:55
[8/15/2012 10:57:22 PM] liuliuchen1202: Should we add some external links?
[8/15/2012 10:57:50 PM] Sanaa Faizi: yes.....try to. I will be doing mine in the end
[8/15/2012 10:57:57 PM] liuliuchen1202: since the assignment describtion says: How "rich" the content is will be considered heavily in evaluating assignments. This would ordinarily include text, links, references, etc. versus simply plain text,
[8/15/2012 10:59:02 PM] Mariel Berania: for yours Lulu maybe you can add a reference link for the elephant shrew since you introduced it in your topic
[8/15/2012 10:59:14 PM] Mariel Berania: i'll try to ad some external links too
[8/15/2012 10:59:32 PM] liuliuchen1202: Ok!
[8/15/2012 11:00:05 PM] liuliuchen1202: BTW do I just put a wiki link in it?
[8/15/2012 11:00:19 PM] liuliuchen1202: or some other sites..
[8/15/2012 11:00:19 PM] Ronda: oh ok ill do that too
[8/15/2012 11:00:28 PM] Mariel Berania: i think the wiki page is enough
[8/15/2012 11:00:51 PM] Ronda: uhh i gotta go right now but ill be back in half an hour or so
[8/15/2012 11:01:08 PM] Sanaa Faizi: np. Ronda you already have external links
[8/15/2012 11:01:36 PM] Sanaa Faizi: The places in Africa are all linked to further wikipedia sites
[8/15/2012 11:01:40 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok ... and do you guys think I shoul put a chart at the end of my section so it looks more clear? I mean all those stats about weight and length
[8/15/2012 11:01:43 PM] Ronda: oh ok
[8/15/2012 11:02:01 PM] Ronda: if you can find out how, but honestly i think just writing it wel if good enough
[8/15/2012 11:02:12 PM] Sanaa Faizi: I agree.
[8/15/2012 11:02:18 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok!
[8/15/2012 11:02:22 PM] Ronda: alright brbb
[8/15/2012 11:02:51 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah i agree, the writing should be enough
[8/15/2012 11:06:02 PM] Mariel Berania: so is it okay if i reference link the type of bus four-toed elephant shrews eat?
[8/15/2012 11:06:26 PM] Mariel Berania: cause that's all i can really add external links to
[8/15/2012 11:06:34 PM] Sanaa Faizi: sure :)
[8/15/2012 11:07:15 PM] Mariel Berania: ok! :)
[8/15/2012 11:09:28 PM] liuliuchen1202: hey guys so my last part of the section which is comparing the weight and length between regular elephant shrew and four toed
[8/15/2012 11:09:34 PM] liuliuchen1202: and it sounds really choppy...
[8/15/2012 11:10:06 PM] liuliuchen1202: but right now I don't know how to change it...
[8/15/2012 11:10:50 PM] liuliuchen1202: should I just reorganize them into two diifferent sections talking bout two different types?
[8/15/2012 11:11:07 PM] Sanaa Faizi: just put it down for now....when we sit to edit it, we can do it then
[8/15/2012 11:11:30 PM] Sanaa Faizi: how about
[8/15/2012 11:12:46 PM] Sanaa Faizi: type out all general differences in proper sentences and the create a <break> and separtely on each sentence type out weight, length etc
[8/15/2012 11:13:00 PM] Sanaa Faizi: and *then create
[8/15/2012 11:13:14 PM] Sanaa Faizi: see if that works for you
[8/15/2012 11:14:04 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok ill try that. Thanks
[8/15/2012 11:15:26 PM] Mariel Berania: oh! if we're adding external sites to some words just make sure there are no doubles
[8/15/2012 11:15:45 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok!
[8/15/2012 11:16:50 PM] Sanaa Faizi: oh i made minor fixes in the behaviour
[8/15/2012 11:16:59 PM] Sanaa Faizi: plz check
[8/15/2012 11:17:08 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay i will
[8/15/2012 11:17:27 PM] Mariel Berania: oh and for yours i just took out some external links cause they were already mentioned
[8/15/2012 11:17:43 PM] Sanaa Faizi: alright
[8/15/2012 11:18:05 PM] Sanaa Faizi: wait i link sight and hearing....those don't ahve anything on them. You can remove those
[8/15/2012 11:18:12 PM] Sanaa Faizi: *linked
[8/15/2012 11:18:21 PM] Sanaa Faizi: smell can remin
[8/15/2012 11:18:42 PM] Mariel Berania: oh okay then
[8/15/2012 11:18:57 PM] Mariel Berania: actually i guess we can leave them
[8/15/2012 11:19:05 PM] Sanaa Faizi: lol oky
[8/15/2012 11:23:01 PM] Mariel Berania: the page looks awesome guys! :)
[8/15/2012 11:26:32 PM] liuliuchen1202: how do you link a word as an external link?/
[8/15/2012 11:26:42 PM] Sanaa Faizi: word
[8/15/2012 11:26:55 PM] Sanaa Faizi: 2 square bracket on either end
[8/15/2012 11:27:08 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok! Thanks!!
[8/15/2012 11:27:56 PM] Mariel Berania: oh, Lulu for you paragraph, if youre still looking for a way to fix it, maybe you can make the comparison as a different paragraph
[8/15/2012 11:28:47 PM] liuliuchen1202: yeah! should make it into three different paragraphs?
[8/15/2012 11:29:02 PM] liuliuchen1202: comparing weight, length and facial structure
[8/15/2012 11:29:45 PM] Sanaa Faizi: don't put them under separate paragraphs...but perhaps leave a line between eac AKA <breaks>
[8/15/2012 11:30:06 PM] Sanaa Faizi: i meant don't put them under separate topic sections
[8/15/2012 11:30:53 PM] liuliuchen1202: oh breaks was what I meant
[8/15/2012 11:31:14 PM] Mariel Berania: yeah do that instead
[8/15/2012 11:31:54 PM] liuliuchen1202: kk
[8/15/2012 11:33:34 PM] Sanaa Faizi: I have made changes to the intro...haven't found too much as yet but modified from the previous one. It also has double the amount of external links to its relatives.
[8/15/2012 11:34:02 PM] Sanaa Faizi: As I find more appropriate information, i'll refine it
[8/15/2012 11:34:15 PM] Mariel Berania: ok
[8/15/2012 11:35:29 PM] liuliuchen1202: ok
[8/15/2012 11:53:26 PM] Sanaa Faizi: is anyone still on the page?
[8/15/2012 11:53:54 PM] liuliuchen1202: Im on it
[8/15/2012 11:54:54 PM] Sanaa Faizi: ok, before you log out would it possible to copy/paste the above section onto our talk page? If not I'll do it later in the morning
[8/15/2012 11:56:32 PM] liuliuchen1202: sure! Ill do it
[8/15/2012 11:57:02 PM] liuliuchen1202: btw do you guys know how to add pics? its so confusing to me ...
[8/15/2012 11:57:24 PM] Mariel Berania: no (worry) i thought we already had a picture though?
[8/15/2012 11:57:29 PM] Sanaa Faizi: I believe Ronda knows...lol
[8/15/2012 11:57:42 PM] Mariel Berania: LOL yeah she'll probably know
[8/15/2012 11:57:54 PM] liuliuchen1202: lol...she probably does
[8/15/2012 11:58:21 PM] liuliuchen1202: i just want to do a comparison between the regular shrew and the four toed
[8/15/2012 11:58:32 PM] liuliuchen1202: so people can see how its different
[8/15/2012 11:58:35 PM] Mariel Berania: ooh okay make sense
[8/15/2012 11:59:38 PM] liuliuchen1202: im reading the picture uploading tutrial...its so confuing
[8/15/2012 11:59:42 PM] liuliuchen1202: confusing
[12:00:29 AM] Mariel Berania: it looks confusing
[12:00:40 AM] Mariel Berania: i tried to understand it earlier and that didnt work out too well
[12:00:53 AM] liuliuchen1202: same here...
[12:01:08 AM] liuliuchen1202: sigh... :(
[12:02:35 AM] Mariel Berania: we can just ask ronda tomorrow then
[12:02:51 AM] Mariel Berania: just have the pictures and citation with you
[12:03:01 AM] liuliuchen1202: okay!
[12:03:30 AM] Mariel Berania: yeap! :)
[12:03:46 AM] Mariel Berania: wait is there anything else on the page we need to do or are we pretty much done?
[12:04:22 AM] liuliuchen1202: I think we are pretty much done in terms of content... but I guess we still need some editing
[12:04:51 AM] Mariel Berania: oh okay. as long as the content is done
[12:05:02 AM] liuliuchen1202: I hope so.. lol...
[12:05:12 AM] Mariel Berania: if anything we can do last minute editing tomorrow since we all looked through each others work anyways
[12:05:49 AM] liuliuchen1202: yeah... I just hope that we have enough info.
[12:15:34 AM] Ronda: Hey guys sorry I didn't come back sooner
[12:15:41 AM] Ronda: But uh is everyone done lol
[12:16:06 AM] Ronda: Also You have to add some coding to copy paste the chat log but if u don't wanna bother I can do it later!
[12:16:24 AM] liuliuchen1202: coding? what coding?
[12:17:43 AM] Ronda: You have to add
after every line otherwise it gets grouped into one long run-on paragraph haha
[12:18:20 AM] liuliuchen1202: oh okay!
[12:18:39 AM] liuliuchen1202: so are we done here?
[12:18:49 AM] Mariel Berania: yeap i think we're good to go
[12:19:17 AM] Ronda: Yeah!!! Cool I'll take a look at it too once I can get back to my comp
[12:19:19 AM] liuliuchen1202: ok.. so Ronda I was just thinking if you know how to add pics on to the page
[12:19:31 AM] Ronda: And then we can take a look at it altogether tmr
[12:20:01 AM] Mariel Berania: okay, sounds good!
[12:20:03 AM] Ronda: Yup, tho it's frustratingly hard to find not copyrighted protected pictures
[12:20:19 AM] Ronda: I already added one to front page but what else u wanna
[12:21:13 AM] liuliuchen1202: oh i wanted to add pics of the regular elephant shrew and the four toed one so people can see the difference
[12:21:34 AM] liuliuchen1202: since I talked bout the difference look of thoes two
[12:21:37 AM] Ronda: Oh like a side by side picture comparison right?
[12:21:44 AM] liuliuchen1202: yep!
[12:23:21 AM] Ronda: Sure I can do it, but can you find another source of the four toed w/ creative commons license
[12:23:54 AM] Ronda: Coz the one I found can be considered dubiously unprotected
[12:24:16 AM] Ronda: So if you can find any suitable for four toed and regular just link me and I'll put them in
[12:24:24 AM] liuliuchen1202: okay!
[12:32:01 AM] Mariel Berania: hey guys im gonna go
[12:32:09 AM] Mariel Berania: i'll see you guys tomorrow :)
[12:32:16 AM] liuliuchen1202: kk see u tmr :)
[12:32:34 AM] Mariel Berania: goodnight!
[12:45:01 AM] Ronda: Night
Ronda.lo (talk) 06:36, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
hey guys i was doing an overall review of the sandbox and changed a lot of sentences around and word choice etc. i also added in brackets where there should be a citation, so hopefully we can find out where we got that info from since it isnt cited yet
Ronda.lo (talk) 06:38, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
blahwas invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ a b Smith, Mary Alice. "Animal Diversity Web". University of Michigan. Retrieved 15 August 2012.