Robby mercier

Unreliable sources

Don't perform edits based on the IMdb or other unreliable sources. They will be reverted. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:51, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

well, there are more than 30, 30 of angela goethals's online bios that say she was INDEED born on may 20 1977. Robby mercier (talk) 02:05, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Partial-blocked for 1 week

Hi Robby mercier. with some regret I've had to partial block your account from editing at Talk:Angela Goethals, because the repeated requests for poorly sourced additions has become disruptive to that page. Youre welcome to edit any other Wikipedia page while the pblock lasts, and/or to spend the time reading up on Wikipedia's sourcing requirement and seeing if you can find a source that meets them. As I said previously, I appreciate your enthusiasm for adding to this article, and I suspect you're right about the birthdate. But article additions need reliable sources, not celebrity websites or self-published material. Of all the news articles in the world on Angela Goethals there is surely one that mentions her date of birth. This would be a good place to start looking as news reports tend to be more reliable than databases like IMDb.

Up to you either way: this message is just to draw your attention to the pblock, and to note it expires in one week. All the best with your continued editing and good luck in finding the sources required to add this material to the page. -- Euryalus (talk) 02:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

well i am not interested in editing anyone else's wikipedia bios other than just angela goethals,

so,

you suspect i'm right?

i am right about her being born on may 20 1977.

well someone who works at wikipedia brought up at her bio at allmovie.com being "reliable"

if i were you go there and you will see, i am right, about her being born may 20 1977. Robby mercier (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

well, hello?

what about her biographys at wikilogy.com, celebsagewiki.com?

since those say FOR SURE that she was born on may 20 1977. Robby mercier (talk) 04:55, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi there. Let's try this one last time: Please read the webpage at WP:RS which explains what a reliable secondary source is. As outlined in the section on user-generated materials, other wikis are not reliable sources because their content is user-generated and we have no guarantee that the content has been independently checked for accuracy.

As above it's great you are enthusiastic about adding to this article. But all edits, especially to biographies of living people, must have reliable sourcing for all edits. It's really not an option to add unsourced or poorly sourced material, no matter how firmly you think that material is correct. So again: have a read of the WP:RS page, and then feel free to look for a source that will pass its test. If you find one you'll then be able to add it to the Goethals page after the pblock expires. -- Euryalus (talk) 06:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

yeah you're correct i play to win with these things i don't like to lose.

well to show how i don't like to lose one of the matches that comes up right away when punching the words angela goethals date of birth may 20 1977 into their search engine is,

bamm the words angela goethals date of birth may 20 1977.

so, even yahoo says that she was born on may 20 1977.

and even her bios at astrotheme.com, astroseek.com, calendarz.com, bornglorious.com, celebscouples.com, celebsfacts.com, fanmail.biz, bodysize.org, kinorium.com, articlebio.com, filmbug.com

so,

even all 11 of those bios of hers say it is INDEED the case that she was born on may 20 1977.

and even a few of those say she is currently 46 years old.

and even a few of those say that it is INDEED the case that she was born on a friday that's right on friday may 20 1977.

so it's now more than 30 of her online bios that i've told you people at wikipedia about, that it is the TRUTH that she was born on friday may 20 1977. Robby mercier (talk) 07:15, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

You seem to be deliberately ignoring what everybody is telling you. We don't use crap sources like celebsfacts, astroseek, etc. 30 unreliable sources do not add up to one reliable source, nor would 50. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:26, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

@Euryalus: they're back at it. Can we just permanently block this guy? He obviously has no interest in understanding. Seasider53 (talk) 14:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

what ever this site is too frecking strict and stubborn with the way they do things. Robby mercier (talk) 14:57, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

I've added the Angela Goethals page to the weeklong pblock. Robby mercier, it surely doesn't need saying again. Please read WP:RS. -- Euryalus (talk) 19:46, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Honestly dude, can you at least try to consider what we are asking of you? I mean you could have tried to add the information back to the Angela Goethals page with the source from Allmovie.com intact. But you didn't even do that. If you ask me, adding the information back to her page without so much as a source is quite reckless. At this point you are literally begging to have your edits reverted. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 20:20, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

well i don't know how to do it with sharing her bio from allmovie.com to this site,

well i guess it can be hard for me to understand your RULES at this site because i have autism and ocd.

but you know what i've got plenty of other things online to tell me that angela goethals was INDEED born on may 20 1977.

i don't need this site to tell me that that's the truth where i could be at forever convincing you people that what i said is the truth.

it's like i could go all over the place to all of her online bios to prove what i said is the truth and you people still wouldn't budge about putting that info in at her bio.

i also don't need the stress of you people being stubborn and strict ruining the enjoyment for me of tuning into the home alone movie.

i've got plenty of other ways to tell me without this site that devin ratray was born on january 11 1977, hillary wolf was born on february 7 1977, angela goethals was born on may 20 1977, and michael c. maronna was born on september 27 1977.

i also don't need the stress of you people refusing to put that info in at her bio here when i have so many other ways to tell me it's true without this site about those 4 that appear in home alone all being born in 1977 along with me. Robby mercier (talk) 01:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately having Autism and OCD is not a reasonable excuse to make. If you're able to edit then you're able to abide by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I am on the spectrum myself, having PDD and ADHD. While I haven't been diagnosed with OCD, I do have personality traits that are commonly associated with OCD.

When I first joined Wikipedia, I did a lot of things that were in violation of the site's policies and guidelines. But I was able to pull through and abide by the site's policies and guidelines for the most part, however reluctantly. Like I said before, editors are more persistent in only including information on Angela Goethals' page that is supported by a reliable source, because she is arguably one of the more popular actresses in Home Alone, due to the character she plays, as well as the number of films and series she has appeared in. Her character Linnie McCallister is arguably the third most popular out of Peter and Kate McCallister's children, after Kevin and Buzz.

Here are my proposed changes to the article anyway. I've added an example of what a source would look like if one were to be added to the page. I haven't included any information regarding her spouse or kids. As I'm only focussing on getting her birthdate and birthname information approved for now. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 05:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

i saw that sample you sent me and yeah, sure if you're going to do it with update the info at her wikipedia bio i'll be up for that.

because it just does not make sense to me that her 3 co stars in home alone have their dates of birth at their wikipedia bios, hillary wolf, devin ratray and michael c. maronna and not angela goethals.

and yeah sure i'll be fine with that that if you update her wikipedia bio for now to say that her date of birth is may 20 1977 and that her full name is angela bethany goethals.

sure i'll be fine with it with forgetting it for now about the details about her spouse and children.

yeah because just to get her date of birth mentioned at her wikipedia bio would indeed make me happy so then it'll mean that all 4 of them in that movie that were born in 1977 along with me ( hillary wolf, devin ratray, michael c. maronna and angela goethals) would have their dates of birth in their wikipedia bios.

and i think it would be a good addition to her bio as well to say angela bethany goethals especially when i have noticed that her co star hillary wolf has the words at her wikipedia biography hillary jocelyn wolf.

but i don't know though about buzz being 2nd most popular with the mccallister children,

because in the many many times i have watched home alone 1 devin ratray/buzz does not show any concern when macaulay culkin/kevin gets left behind and hillary wolf/megan, angela goethals/linnie and michael c. maronna/jeff all show their concern and worry for kevin. Robby mercier (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

A lot of people like Buzz for the same reasons that a lot of people dislike him. He stands out as the second most prominent of Peter and Kate's children in Home Alone. And probably the second most known of their children. When I was younger, he was the only one of Kevin's siblings that I could name right off the bat. A lot of people like Linnie because of her famous 'You're what the French call "Les Incompétents"' quote. And a lot of people like Kevin because he's the main character and the most well known character in the film. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 23:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

well all of them that portray the mccallister children say quotes in that movie that make me laugh kevin and his 4 on screen siblings even,

hillary wolf/megan who left the movie business says things as well in that movie that make me laugh.

but could you give me a timetable on when you'll make those changes to angela goethals's bio that you showed me and i said i'd be up for it with you doing it? Robby mercier (talk) 02:36, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

It depends on when a consensus in favour of the proposed changes being made to the article can be reached. Since certain users seem hesitant to have the information added to the page as of writing this. I did try to remind them that Allmovie.com is one of the sites that Wikipedia deems reliable. But they have yet to respond. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 06:39, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

well i see that you did it before with adding the words angela bethany goethals born may 20 1977 into her bio,

well let me give you a big thanks for doing this because this update makes me happy indeed

because now it'll mean that all 4 of them in that movie that were born in 1977 along with me now have their dates of birth listed at their wikipedia bios now,

devin ratray, michael c. maronna, hillary jocelyn wolf and now angela bethany goethals. Robby mercier (talk) 02:32, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

well it is hard to add a photo to someone's wikipedia bio?

i say that because even though i'm very pleased indeed that all 4 of those names from home alone have their dates of birth listed at their wikipedia bios now,

but,

i have noticed though that hillary wolf is the only 1 of the 4 of them that does not have a picture under her wikipedia bio and i have seen plenty of pictures available of her under yahoo images. Robby mercier (talk) 08:47, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

well while you have been blocking me i see wikipedia has finally done it by adding the words angela bethany goethals and date of birth may 20 1977 into her wikipedia bio.

well i am very very pleased by wikipedia adding just those things into her bio so thanks, because now that,

that's right that all 4 of them in home alone 1 that share the same birth year as me all have their dates of birth listed in their bios here,

right, devin ratray, michael c. maronna, hillary jocelyn wolf and finally angela bethany goethals. Robby mercier (talk) 15:43, 23 November 2023 (UTC)