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Waterstones - Piccadilly

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Just been reviewing the article as I feel that it might be a good idea to put it up for Good article status, however, just looking back through the discussion page shows me that you took the information about the Piccadilly store and it's reputation as the "largest bookstore in Europe" out. Your justification for removing it by comparing it to the Foyles claim is believable as I myself have visited Foyles and Waterstone's Piccaddilly and they are both very big, but just doing a quick internet search brings up Piccadilly over and over again as the biggest store. I was wondering if you would complain massively if I put the claim back in with a reference or two, as it seems that it would fit into the article nicely and just adds polish to the article.

I'll wait for a response before I go and add this back in - thanks. RandomArticles 23:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I haven't been around. Yes, I would object, because as you say yourself, the claim almost certainly isn't true. It is not unusual for things that aren't true to be repeated in the media many times. I suspect that what happened is that the claim was made in a press release, which in the nature of press releases probably didn't provide any credible backup for said claim. A few journalists would have picked it up because it was the most striking thing in the press release. It then gained momentum, as other journalists repeated it without even thinking that they needed to check it because it has already been featured in so many other "reputable" publications. Wikipedia should not fall into the same trap. The only credible source for the claim would be one that actually gave a statistic basis of comparison, and stated who prepared the statistics. It is very unlikely that any such source exists, because as we both believe from personal observation, the claim simply isn't true. Wimstead (talk) 19:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

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Waterstones

I was going to leave a detailed comment on the article talk page but since I don't have much to say I'll say it here. First off, the article is clearly ready to at least be nominated for a GA. There are no article or section problem templates, very few sentences appear to be without references and the sections of the article don't seem to be dominated by a particular subject. As a first cut it looks good. The lede could be improved but at a glance I can't see much wrong with the article. You should nominate it if you feel you will have the time to respond to comments. If you would like a more thorough peer review I can provide one but that will take some time given the length of the article. Hope this helps. Protonk (talk) 23:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

That's awesome, cheers for the feedback - all I'd ask, having had a look through the lede stuff is, the structure makes sense, but I'm not sure about what info to include - a brief stand alone sounds great as advice, but it's difficult to put into practice. Any ideas?

I will nominate the article once I've got the lede down! ta, RandomArticles||Talk 23:39, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Basically the lede should be two things. First it should serve as an executive summary for the article. I should be able to read the lede in it's entirely and come away with a decent understanding of all the article content. Second it should entice the reader to keep reading. Those two obviously work against each other. But as a general rule you should look at each major section and ensure it has a place in the lede. An article of this length can have a lede from 2-4 paragraphs in length, so keep that in mind. Protonk (talk) 00:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

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Just to give you a heads up that I've started work reviewing the article. It should be completed in 3-5 days if everything goes accordingly. – Lemonade51 (talk) 21:46, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

ooh! exciting! please don't hesitate to keep me in the loop and ask questions etc about anything... RandomArticles||Talk 21:56, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Right, given the lead a cleanup and have passed the article. If you are considering to make this a WP:FAC one day, be sure to take a peer review first because there is always room for prose improvements and expansion. – Lemonade51 (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Will bare that in mind - ta for the cleanup stuff! RandomArticles||Talk 19:47, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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