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I am new to Wikipedia and after making some enquiries decided to give it a try.

I was told ..... "Don't worry too much about formatting - other editors can always tidy up whatever you contribute. Be bold! "

I have added 2 articles: PS.Invincible Murray River Queen

Both were deleted straight away with the deletion log reading :

• 19:16, 7 July 2007 Merope (Talk | contribs) deleted "Murray River Queen" (csd a1)

I provided a reference, and was going to add a 2nd later (after looking up another book.)

Can someone tell me what I did wrong..?? Does "csd a1" mean something..??

RDUNC 12:18, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, first of all welcome aboard :). CSD A1 is a code that means "Criteria for speedy deletion - Very short article providing little or no context". By looking at the article, you don't provide any explanation on what the "Murray River Queen" is and why it is notable. You should take a look at some similar boat articles to see what you should include or not (I must admit that I am not an expert in the field ;)). If you need further help, please don't hesitate to post on my talk page or to put {{helpme}} followed by your question on this page. -- lucasbfr ^talk 12:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

hi, it is not a question of completing in one shot, more that at that time, the content really did not qualify. I restored the content at User:RDUNC/PS.Invincible and User:RDUNC/Murray River Queen so you can work on it. I'm out for today, but I propose to let you work on these drafts (they are not encyclopedia article since they are on your user space) and when you feel that the article is ready, drop me a note and add {{helpme}} so someone can take a look and move it back to the encyclopedia if the result is acceptable :) -- lucasbfr ^talk 13:56, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for not coming back earlier. If you want to draft an article in your userspace before moving it to the encyclopedia, just call the article "User:RDUNC/name of the article" (you can type that in the search box to get a link to the page). Special:Prefixindex/User:RDUNC can help you locating all the articles in your space. Just remember that Wikipedia is not a free webhost and therefore you should only do drafts for future articles :). If you want to delete a page, just add {{db-author}} at its top. I hope that helps! -- lucasbfr ^talk 08:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Murray River Queen- the continuing saga.....

Sorry to hear that :x I can't find the deleted articles though, were you using an other username? Or maybe there's a glitch somewhere :). For the categories, in fact that's working backwards, you simply need to add [[Category:Paddle steamers]] to your article, and it will show up on the list. For your articles, I suggest you so state why these two boats are different from the other boats constructed at the same time (why they received coverage, their story: "last xxx", "first xxx to have xxx", ...). -- lucasbfr ^talk 09:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

For your user page User:RDUNC, in fact it got deleted by Ryulong because it only contained some random trolling by a now blocked editor. Since it was neither relevant, at the right place nor helpful, it got deleted, no worries there is no link with your articles :). Anyway, sorry if your first encounter with our policies was harsher than what you expected! -- lucasbfr ^talk 11:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Here to help

Hi RDUNC - I am an administrator on Wikipedia. A colleague has informed me that you are asking for some help with the above named article (and perhaps with wiki itself also). Can you let me know by reply if you are still around (I hope so) and also let me know exactly what you are trying to do and I will be able to start helping you. To send me your reply just click on the talk link in my signature and start a new message. Waiting in anticipation. Best wishes.--VS ^talk 23:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi - I am sorry I didn't read your email sooner. I have been away (and I am also pretty much retired from the project). I have referred you on to two fellow editors who will hopefully be able to show you the ropes. I have had a look at Murray River Queen made a few changes including categorising it. I have also moved it out of your user space and into article space. The article probably needs some additional info as to why this boat is in someway notable - I don't know how many boats of that size ply the Murray - if there are only a few such tourist boats, that in itself would be enough. Regards --Golden Wattle ^talk 00:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi RDUNC> I've also added a bit more to Murray River Queen. I agree the topic is valid for Wikipedia, but also can see that the original version did not contain enough information for someone unfamiliar with the vessel to understand its significance. I've added a bit more history, but not much as i couldn't quickly find any references. The article would benefit from more history, and a proper explanation of her role as the original "modern" large passenger cruise on the Murray. --Scott Davis ^Talk 15:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)