Pruva
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Have you ever read sources ? -- Takabeg (talk) 22:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
That source is not enough proof to base assumptions on someone whose family lineage today can be tracked and is well known, and is of Turkish descent. I have explained this in discussion too. Just because something is referred doesn't mean it can overcome the obvious fact. That is my first point. Second point is, although I may be new in wikipedia, I know what a vandalism is and also checked the definition which states it is about all kinds of nonsense editting of the pages. I am open to all kind of constructive criticism and would uphold the truth in matters above all else but... Where is nonsense in this matter I want to ask (see my first point).--Pruva (talk) 22:40, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources ? -- Takabeg (talk) 23:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Here I have provided the issue with ample resources with first hand reliability - the resources of that period. Both of Turkish origin and of European.--Pruva (talk) 23:20, 2 September 2011 (UTC)