User talk:Necrothesp/List of AfD discussions for individuals with a CBE or above

CBE or higher

Thanks for the list, Necrothesp, actually quite useful. Perhaps you could also link to what you mean when you write "CBE or above", perhaps your own userspace essay on this? Because there doesn't seem to be a general agreeement on what constitutes "CBE or higher", at the moment. Cheers. Pilaz (talk) 00:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pilaz: There doesn't need to be an agreement on Wikipedia. It's simple fact in the real world. The CVO, CIE, CMG, CSI, CB, CH, OM and all honours that grant a title are all higher than the CBE. Period. I'm only including British honours here, of course. Comparing honours from different countries is well nigh impossible. -- Necrothesp (talk) 22:34, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

So it's just your opinion? Pilaz (talk) 22:48, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, adding to this because I think I wasn't clear in my wording: is there a real world cross-order comparison or ranking of honorifics? Pilaz (talk) 07:51, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pilaz: Yes, that was my point! There is a very clear "real world" ranking of British honours, as I have said above. It is not my opinion. It is a fact. See the last paragraph of Orders of precedence in the United Kingdom: recipients are ranked in order of level of honour, and within that by rank of the order. So, from lowest to highest, all the members (MBE, MVO), then all the officers and lieutenants (OBE, LVO), then all the commanders and companions (CBE, CVO, CIE, CMG, CSI, CB), then all the knights and dames commanders (KBE/DBE, KCVO/DCVO, KCIE, KCMG/DCMG, KCSI, KCB/DCB) and finally all the knights and dames grand cross/commander (GBE, GCVO, GCIE, GCMG, GCSI, GCB). Knights Bachelor come between CBs and KBEs, CHs come between KCBs and GBEs, OMs come between GCSIs and GCBs. It is only MBEs, MVOs, OBEs and LVOs who we haven't always held to be notable per WP:ANYBIO #1. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:53, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Post-1999 peers AfDs

The following are missing: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir John Ramsden, 9th Baronet, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Kennedy, 9th Marquess of Ailsa --Pilaz (talk) 01:19, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

• Might also want to add Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Nevill, 6th Marquess of Abergavenny [delete], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Hay, 14th Marquess of Tweeddale (2nd nomination) [delete], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Manners, Marquess of Granby [delete], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Hamilton, Marquess of Hamilton [delete], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Chichester, 8th Marquess of Donegall [no consensus], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Somerset, Marquess of Worcester [delete], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander Gordon, 7th Marquess of Aberdeen and Temair [keep], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Townshend, 8th Marquess Townshend [keep], Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles John Tottenham, 9th Marquess of Ely [keep], George Spencer-Churchill, Marquess of Blandford [keep]. Pilaz (talk) 01:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
  • I sort of gave up on that list. Note that baronets and people with courtesy titles aren't peers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 22:37, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

    Noted for baronets, I keep confusing them with barons... Also fyi, I started a tentative list at User:Pilaz/List of peer-related AfD discussions. Feel free to leave feedback if you want. Pilaz (talk) 22:51, 15 March 2022 (UTC)