User talk:Necrothesp/Archive 12/Notability criteria for recipients of honours

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Gecko G in topic missing US awards

missing US awards

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If you are including the Legion of Merit (LoM) as a 2nd level service award then the Defense Superior Service Medal (DSSM) should also be included as it is a half-step higher awarded for joint operations. Though, per below, you might want to make them both 3rd level.

Likewise if you inculde the Soldier's Medal & Navy and Marine Corps Medal as 4th level awards then the Airman's Medal & Coast Guard Medal ought to be included as they are the equivalent award for those branch's (they are all Medals for non-combat heroism).

The Defense Meritorious Service Medal (DMSM) & Meritorious Service Medal (MSM) should be added as 4th level awards as they rank between the Bronze Star Medal (BSM), Purple Heart & the Air Medal, which you have all listed as 4th level awards. Also the MSM is basically the non-combat zone version of the BSM.

If you have the Bronze Star as a 4th level award along with the MSM & DMSM, I would be tempted to make the LoM & DSSM as 3rd level service awards, leaving the branch DSMs as 2nd level Service awards. Then perhaps make the Defense Distinguished Service Medal (DDSM) as a 1st level service award (maybe the Homeland Security DSM as well). However, I can also see argument's for keeping the DDSM & HSDSM as 2nd level awards alongside the branch DSM's.

Another thing to consider is some of the higher unit awards. The Presidential Unit Citations (PUC) are gallantry awards based on the service cross's. If the service cross's are 2nd level gallantry awards, then the PUC's could be considered 3rd level Gallantry awards.

The Joint Meritorious Unit Award (JMUA) is based on the DSSM. If you make the DSSM a 3rd level service award, and the PUC's as 3rd level gallantry awards, as I suggest, then the JMUA could be a 4th level award. Of course then the Valorous Unit Award, Navy Unit Commendation, & Gallant Unit Citation are all based on the Silver Star (a 3rd level award in your scheme) and/or the LoM (a 2nd or 3rd level award, per above) - and the JMUA is only a half-step higher than these 3 - so then these awards might also be 4th level awards?

Obviously all these unit awards are only for cases of permanent wear. Gecko G (talk) 05:23, 9 January 2016 (UTC)Reply


my full pyramid draft

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my full pyramid for the US military awards would be something like this:

obviously only 4th level and higher is relevant for your page, but I think a fuller explanation could be helpful for determining guideline on what to include in the infobox military person awards line. Gecko G (talk) 06:08, 9 January 2016 (UTC)Reply