{{WikiProjectBannerShell|blp=yes| {{WikiProject Venezuela|class=Stub|importance=mid}} {{WikiProject Beauty Pageants|class=Stub|importance=mid}} {{WPBiography |living=yes |class=Stub |listas=Goncalves, Vanessa }}}} == OTT == Wow; does anyone else think this is way over the top for an encyclopaedia entry?[[User:The joy of all things|The joy of all things]] ([[User talk:The joy of all things|talk]]) 19:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC) == POV == This article is too flowery without citations and reference. I will try to clean up later, but if somebody wants to help out.....? [[User:The joy of all things|The joy of all things]] ([[User talk:The joy of all things|talk]]) 20:01, 2 November 2016 (UTC) :{{ping|The joy of all things}} What exactly isn't neutral about the lead of the article? ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 15:55, 8 October 2021 (UTC) ::{{u|Blaze The Wolf}}, five years ago (wow) the lead said this: {{cquote|Vanessa is a passionate, talented and charismatic Venezuelan born; deeply involved in Public Relations who can fluently speaks English, Spanish and Portuguese. Her charm has caught the attention of thousands of people that have seen not only her beauty after been elected Miss Venezuela Universe 2010, but also through her professionalism, honesty and hard work. During her career as a model and TV Host she has gained countless followers and developed a vast number of connections becoming a great influencer in the social media Vanessa is an achieved athlete; she also finds time to serve the community by being involved as a Collaborator to UNICEF, an Active Member of Operation Smile, as PR to IBC World Consultants and as Coordinator in a DS Charity Foundation. Being a Dentist specialized in Cosmetic and Smile Design has added a lot of value to her organizational and communication skills. With so many attributes, Vanessa is a promising Real State Agent committed to provide the Best Services to her clients. She presents the facts, figures and statistics necessary to make smart investment decisions. An invaluable partner on both sides of the table, Vanessa will always protect your best interests and negotiate seamlessly on your behalf. With a strong work ethic and an uncanny ability to match buyer and seller. If you are looking to buy or sell, make every moment count with Vanessa as your real estate professional agent. She’s driven, she cares, and she’s committed to your goals. Each of her listings is given the maximum exposure available on the Internet, social media. A professional who feels a great sense of satisfaction and achievement in meeting the needs of her clients. The Word professionalism stands out in every letter of recommendation, and that seems to say it all.}} ::It's been tidied up a lot since then. Feel free to remove the tag. Regards. [[User:The joy of all things|The joy of all things]] ([[User talk:The joy of all things|talk]]) 17:52, 8 October 2021 (UTC) :::Alright will do. And just reading the first line of that tells me it really need cleaned up per [[WP:NPOV]]. Thanks for letting me know! ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 18:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC) ::::In an unrelated matter; it still says in the lead that she is a dentist, but not in the article. I looked sometime ago, but couldn't find a cite. Fully prepared to accept she is that, but I think that'll need either a cite, or removing. Thoughts? Regards. [[User:The joy of all things|The joy of all things]] ([[User talk:The joy of all things|talk]]) 18:42, 8 October 2021 (UTC) :::::I don't really think her being a dentist is something that we should mention anyway as it isn't really what she's known for. Although I would definitely say that if you can't find a source that says she's a dentist then you should remove it. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 18:46, 8 October 2021 (UTC) ::::::At the very top of the talk page it says (and I"m paraphrasing) that any content that could probably be challenged and is unsourced should be removed immediately. And there's some stuff in the (small) main body of the article that is unsourced and should either be sourced or removed. ― [[User:Blaze The Wolf|<b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q">Blaze The Wolf</b>]][[User talk:Blaze The Wolf|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="position:relative;right:22q">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 18:48, 8 October 2021 (UTC)