both articles are deleted, so the point is....? Carlossuarez46 16:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- You might be interested to read: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meshel, Ash and Kip with Luttsy where the reasons for deletion were fleshed out. Cheers, Carlossuarez46 16:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)