Maribus

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Hi, Maribus. Referencing internet forums and blogs are inappropriate for an encyclopedia article, and neither are they considered a reputable sources for a film-related article. Internet forums are of anonymous opinions and rants, no way on earth should anyone consider them to be suitable references.

Many statements in the huge chunk of paragraphs you wrote does not match the citation you cited. The first USA Today reference was talking about Geisha being banned by the Chinese government, which was already thoroughly discussed in the Memoirs of a Geisha (film) article, and the article itself did not include some of the "statement" you wrote about the actress. Many of the statements you inserted are also not found in the cited "sources", and might be of original content. More importantly, the sources you cited are quite problematic themselves. The second source you added (Tianya Forum) is from an internet forum, and the link is defunct; the third source is an internet blog (http://zonaeuropa.com/); the fourth source (lostlaowai) is also an internet blog. None of them are appropriate citation for an film related article. And please try not to insert words of our own words onto the article, as original research is not allowed on Wikipedia.

Remember this article is an encyclopedia entry, and is also a living biography of a person; the filmography and the body of work of this film actor is the most important, so please be considerate.

Much of the information from your contribution/paragraphs are talking about online communities' opinion. Has Zhang Ziyi ever been written like this in public Chinese newspapers? Has Zhang Ziyi ever been called out and verbally attacked like that in major media outlets? It seems to me much of these vicious reaction and criticism are written on the internet forums, or from bloggers, and these are irrelevant information; did the actress ever respond to these people? Should we always include inflammentary comments from internet users about an actor? If you have articles about Zhang Ziyi's body of works, her acting, analysis of her films, these would be appreciated. However, these are online reaction to tabloid stories, and are not essential to the article at all.--Balthazarduju (talk) 08:32, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that the information you wrote about her consist of citation of blogs and internet forums; they are not appropriate sources for an encyclopedia article. You can't talk about an actor's reputation based on comments on the internet forums, and no Wikipedia article on actors contain a section talking about how they are viewed on the internet and blogsphere. That is odd and unencyclopedic. I asked you whether the actress has been verbally attacked by notable and reputed sources, and if so, then that would be a different case. If a certain famous person criticized her or reputable media or organizations say this of her in a notable way, then it might be included. But internet users "responses" are not one of them.--Balthazarduju (talk) 04:36, 16 February 2009 (UTC)