User talk:MGA73/GFDL

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Alexis Jazz

@MGA73: Sorry for not responding sooner. "The content is licensed GFDL by someone else than the uploader on Wikipedia." could technically allow two photographers to make a deal to upload each other's photos. "The content could be used on Wikipedia as non-free." should be clarified. Does this mean that downscaling, minimal use and other non-free content restrictions don't apply? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

I've boldly removed the proposal from VPP so the wording can be tweaked. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@MGA73:

  • I tweaked the language a bit
  • "modify the original suggestion" referred to something that wasn't mentioned (presumably the Commons proposal), I removed it.
  • I removed the "The content is licensed GFDL by someone else than the uploader on Wikipedia" exception. It leaves the door open to circumvent entire thing and nobody outside Wikimedia uses GFDL for photos and the like.
  • The exception for content that also qualifies as non-free was unclear. This is an edge case anyway so I removed it.
  • We could add an exception that resolution restrictions don't apply if the content is eligible for non-free inclusion but the content is otherwise treated as non-free. It's a bit ugly, but it might win over a few voters. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:14, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

User:Diannaa, I heard you are a copyright guru. Got any holes to shoot in this proposal? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 18:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Alexis Jazz: Thank you for working on this. The reason I suggested to allow GFDL where fair use was the only alternative was to avoid that it would be used against the proposal. I have no objections against that we try the version you suggested. --MGA73 (talk) 19:07, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@MGA73: I know some photographers are standing on principle with this and I wouldn't be surprised if they tried uploading their photos of statues in non-FoP countries with a nonfree+GFDL license. That's why I added the non-derivative limitation, to prevent that. Also to prevent possible confusion that non-free limitations in general could be circumvented by creating a GFDL licensed derivative work, which would be bad. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply