Louis R14

hiya! :)

glaive

I assure you that if you change the introduction of pizza to read "Pizza ... is the Italian name of an oven-baked, flat, usually round bread covered with tomato sauce with optional toppings", you will be met with exactly the same argument. A borrowed word does eventually become part of the lexicon of a language, just as much as a purely native word, even if its origin never changes. So, I suppose if you wanted to say that "Glaive is a word of French origin for a polearm consisting..." that would be valid, but it seems rather irrelevant: I mean, train, blanch, vengance, fruit, legume, veal, and a zillion other words all come from French. Such words form a huge portion of the English vocabulary, and it would be ridiculous to make a note of that in every such article. --Iustinus 23:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

you are right, but i saw people doing it for german origin words. they must be proud of it and ashame about their french heritage (which is deeper) or some. i think etymology has an encyclopedic value. i do not agree about the lexicon though. maybe english academists language have a different view than the french one (Académie française). Louis R14 14:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I just noticed you had replied to me here. Êtes-vous français, vous-même? Yeah, the Académie française is notoriously different from most other languages, and especially English, which borrows words very promiscuously, and feels no shame about it. I agree that the etymology of the word is relevant, and in fact the history of the word is already discussed on the page in rather more detail than is usual for a wikipedia article. But it does seem to me that to say "glaive is a word of French origin" would be overkill. Where did you see this done for German words? --Iustinus 22:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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