LankhmarJoe

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Please note this user page is a continuation of a previous user ID Drifter bob (talk - contribs) that was used from 2006 - 2007 discontinued and that I no longer have access to. This id was created when I resumed doing Wikipedia edits in 2018. See below for more details.

I am probably done with Wikipedia for a while, please do not post on this page unless you have a very pressing reason. LankhmarJoe (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey Joe

I just read your reply to me on the P40 variants page, it seems you were typing that out while I was typing out my "wow" comment. But, if young don't mind, I'm posting here to have a Joe-wolf discussion, not a Joe-zlea-steelpillow-wolf-whoever-else discussion.

I see you're frustrated, I know you've put alot of work into that page, and you have made some very good points about the dispute. I just want to remind you that I am just a volunteer editor, like you. I'm not an admin and I have no special powers or connections. I just saw the dispute brewing and thought I would try to help out. But all I can do is give advice... maybe it's useful, maybe not. I have no dog in this fight, I have never once edited that article, it's just on my watchlist like thousands of other military history related articles.

Speaking of advice, have you read my last comment there? (The "Wow" post) If you two truly can't work together (and I get that, there's people on this project I avoid because they're impossible to deal with) and if you're really that far apart on the direction of article (I believe you said you had 50kB of content with 60+ refs and the "other editor" had a basic list with only 4 refs), then perhaps you two really are working on two different articles?

Instead of continuing to slug it out with the other editor, or quitting, there is another option. Take all your content and keep working on it in your sandbox. It may just work out yet, one way or another.

Or take a break. You've been around WP for a decade. You know you can check-out for awhile (whether it's a few weeks or a couple years) and the project will still be here. As will your account (just don't forget your password), as will that article, as will all your work, all that content, either in that article, in the page history or anywhere in your userspace you may care to save it. And whenever you come back, you'll still be able to edit that page and/or whatever page has all your work on it.

This is getting longer than I intended so I'll wrap it up. I basically wanted to say this isn't worth the stress, whether it's fighting about content or over accusations at the other editor or whoever happens to cross your path, or anything else you may feel you're up against. It just isn't. Anyways, whatever you chose to do, if you need any help, just let me know. Cheers - wolf 21:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey Wolf - I appreciate your obviously genuine, friendly overture here. I know very well we are all volunteers, each of us in our own circumstances. Mine are that I have spent too much time on all this and can't keep up with it. Though a bit fed up, I don't have anything against you or even honestly against the kid who played with the article - in a way it's all pretty amusing. But I do think there are serious structural issues with Wikipedia a few of which are highlighted in this little incident.

I'll probably take a long break and see how things are going in a few years. Thanks for being human. LankhmarJoe (talk) 21:55, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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