Katsumasahiro

August 2009

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Kira Takenouchi. Thank you. --DAJF (talk) 04:48, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced controversial biographical content to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Kira Takenouchi. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --DAJF (talk) 04:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

What you are trying to do is remove everything known about Kira Takenouchi so that you can delete her from your wikipedia. A LEGITIMATE resources has been provided, Kira is to be featured as an entrepreneur in the launch issue of Yaoi World, along with SL Publishing, Becca Abbott, and Tricia Owens, in the Rising Stars & Entrepreneurs edition. Email Yutaka Takehiko at admin@yaoiworld.net! He will confirm it! You are obliged to keep that reference in even if you delete everything else. I am guessing you are some competitor who is jealous of Kira's fame. Even if you delete this entry, you can't delete Kira. Google her name and you'll get a zillion entries. Whether you like it or not, whoever you are, Kira is here to stay. You have a lot of nerve coming in when people have spent a lot of time working on an article, deleting everything. How many search requests do you get for Kira Takenouchi? My guess is about a million. People want to know who she is and what's known about her. What is the point of Wikipedia if you delete entries people want to know about? And why? ----Katsumasahiro

Quit removing the reference!!! You say it's unsourced but you won't allow a real reference! ----Katsumasahiro

Ermmm, have you actually looked at the site you keep adding a link to in the Kira Takenouchi article? It says "Website coming soon. Under construction." Sorry, but that does not enable the facts claimed to be verified. Saying "email the owner" is also not how Wikipedia works. Seriously, if you've only been on Wikipedia a couple of days, you should really read though the guidelines at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and also Wikipedia:Verifiability, because you will only get yourself blocked from editing if you keep adding unsourced stuff like that to this or other articles on Wikipedia/ --DAJF (talk) 05:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You know what? You're going to look like a complete idiot when that online issue comes out. Please make them keep these notes here so everyone can laugh at you. And I suggest you look back at the site in the next few days, like maybe even by TOMORROW, they are going to start putting teasers up of the launch INCLUDING a list of the content. This has already been announced at Kira's Facebook site to over 700 readers, that's how I know. So then YOU will look like an idiot for being an ass about this. Leave this page alone, what is your problem? Go do something else. If you do NOT see something up at Yaoi World in the next few days ABSOLUTELY CONFIRMING everything I have written here, I will eat my hat. Why do you care? Get a life.---Katsumasahiro

Per WP:BLP find a source that is accessible at this moment and cite that. Referring to sources that will come out in the future isn't acceptable. Seb az86556 (talk) 05:23, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You'll have your source in less than 24 hours and then you'll look like an idiot (which you are). I'm going to personally contact Yutaka and ask him to put the content up JUST FOR THE SAKE of my reputation. I spent a lot of work on this page you fucked it all up. I'd better be able to undo those changes without typing them in again. I am going to report you for harassment and vandalism of this page.

We care because a) wikipedia is not a news-flash website and b) wkipedia has been sued several times over BLP issues. It could shut down the entire site. Seb az86556 (talk) 05:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't buy it. You're harping about notability issues and then you reject a reference that answers you. I suspect homophobia. I concede the site in question has not yet posted anything to confirm the upcoming launch issue, but when they do--and they WILL--it seems right that wikipedia should accept it. You act as though I know nothing about citation. In fact, I've done medical research for decades. "In press" citations are ALWAYS accepted as legitimate. It is not a "news flash" to cite an "in press" publication. Yaoi World will be both an online and a print publication, according to Editor-in-Chief Yutaka Takehiko. When that launch page teaser goes up and confirms who made their list of Rising Stars & Entrepreneurs, there will be several yaoi authors who are listed here on wikipedia and on your Yaoi page who are going to want to cite it also, count on it. Your suggesting that Kira Takenouchi would "sue you" for listing a citation that gives her top press as a rising star and entrepreneur is, quite frankly, laughably absurd. There's some other motive behind your resentful destruction of her page and I am quite sure it's either racially-inspired, homophobia, or possibly resentment/jealousy, if one of you is a yaoi writer (although I admit that would be exceptionally pathetic, the thought that a competitor would deliberately try to marginalize her notability). This is probably one reason why wikipedia has fallen out of fashion and people are turning to all the other pedias out there that list the truth. People don't give a fuck, to be blunt, whether or not you get sued. They just want to know the truth. Wikipedia ceases to become any sort of useful resource once it begins to censor truth. Katsumasahiro (talk) 07:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Katsumasahiro

We can't read the reference from Yaoi World, nor are we sure if it's reliable or not. Because of the nature of Wikipedia, 'in press' citations cannot be accepted as references, as it's important that the article be verifiable. I've readded the tags, as they are still legit - the article needs more sources, and we aren't sure how important KT is to Global BL. Please do not remove them without adding more sources to the article. --Malkinann (talk) 07:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"we aren't sure how important KT is to Global BL." You've got to be kidding. If you people don't know anything about the yaoi arena and have never heard of KT you have no business editing this page. Kira's departure and return from writing yaoi was a BIG DEAL. The company split up was a mess, half the investors created a whole new company, initially profiting by attempting to continue HER fiction! Fans were freaking out because they adored her and one day she suddenly split. How can you not know this? Put some yaoi experts on this page please!!! Katsumasahiro (talk) 08:13, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Katsumasahiro

Just because you feel Kira Takenouchi is famous in the GloBL scene does not mean she is notable by Wikipedia's standards. The more reliable sources on the Kira Takenouchi article that are unaffiliated with her, the better. --Malkinann (talk) 11:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I know this isn't a competition, but I beat you to the chase, Katsu. Check out Yaoi World. Also I know something you don't...see if you can figure out what it is. Kxings (talk) 05:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxing

Hey, heads up, the clueless folks here at wikipedia have marked Kira for delete! LMAO!! And she was just named the Best New Yaoi Author in the World!! BTW...you didn't have to totally spaz here. I know they're assholes but they just don't know what's going on, and this is just a retarded wikipedia entry. I don't think it's homophobia, as you suspected, it's simply complete ignorance of yaoi. I have to say I found it very amusing when you said you would contact Yutaka Takehiko and make him put up the teaser just to save YOUR reputation. Like he gives a crap what your reputation is on wikipedia? Honestly, I'm not gloating, but I did see the site up first, I'm surprised you didn't come running over here to cite it. Who are you, by the way? Are you in Kira's FB group? One of the Blondie Guards maybe? You don't have to state your name but I don't recognize your handle. Kxings (talk) 06:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxing

Idiot. Confirm your email. I don't know who you are so I can't contact you. If you care that they're about to delete Kira (and I THOUGHT that you did) you need to get your ass over to that page. Kxings (talk) 07:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxings

Wah! I didn't know! They deleted her last year too. And that yaoi page is PATHETIC, laughably so. But Yaoi World is up, oh man. That's awesome, oh shit! Those pricks acted like I was full of it! Ha! Like I'd waste my time making up crap to post on wikipedia. Ooo Shuangwen made it. Okay I'm going over there, but it's no use talking sense to these people. Yes I'm on FB, I'm Katsu. Add me if you want. Katsumasahiro (talk) 09:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Katsumasahiro

I posted but I don't think they are even paying attention to the fact that those references turned out to be dead-on correct. They want to delete her as "not notable" because THEY have never heard of her, which isn't saying much, since they all admit they don't know anything about yaoi. They are completely ignoring Yaoi World, even though I'll bet you a million dollars Tina Anderson lists that interview as a reference on HER site. They're ignoring it because they can't stand to admit they were wrong, they had made up their minds from the start. This site makes me sick. Katsumasahiro (talk) 09:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Katsumasahiro

Real smooth. Now you left me all alone in the den of vipers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kxings (talk • contribs) 16:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt he knows that. Do you really think he'll be back after you treated him so shabbily? Kxings (talk) 16:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxings

AfD nomination of Kira Takenouchi

An article that you have been involved in editing, Kira Takenouchi, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kira Takenouchi (2nd nomination). Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. DAJF (talk) 01:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Sock puppet case

You are suspected of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kxings. Thank you. Farix (Talk) 13:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Kira Takenouchi. Thank you. Farix (Talk) 14:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced controversial biographical content to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Kira Takenouchi. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Farix (Talk) 14:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory or otherwise controversial content into an article or any other Wikipedia page, as you did to Kira Takenouchi, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Seb az86556 (talk) 14:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

3RR

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kira Takenouchi. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Smashville^talk 14:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Smashville^talk 15:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Katsumasahiro (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Am being unfairly reversed by people who won't admit they are wrong and accept a legit reference.

Decline reason:

Perhaps, but edit warring is unacceptable for any reason. Agree to stay away from Kira Takenouchi (you're welcome to use the talk page) and you'll be unblocked. --jpgordon^{::==( o )} 15:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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A website that contains nothing but an "Under Construction" flash app is not a legitimate reference for anything. --Farix (Talk) 15:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not "under construction" now, it actually lists the contents. Kxings (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxings

(...and explaining that to us, that's what talkpages are for.Seb az86556 (talk) 16:22, 5 August 2009 (UTC))

This was aptly explained on the deletion page, but you all were in a rush to remove this entry. Even there, you accused Katsu of fabricating Yaoi World, as well as all those writers, companies, and artists just to create a reference. First of all, it's impossible, he couldn't have done it. Visit the sites that are listed as having made the Rising Stars & Entrepreneurs list. They are established sites that are independent of KT, in fact, they are competitors. Tina Anderson has been listed here on Wikipedia for years. Juxtapose Fantasy has been around for maybe 10 years. Becca Abbott, too. Are you really suggesting that Katsu made some elaborate plan beginning over a decade ago to create fake yaoi writers and companies, which includes writing hundreds of stories on all these different sites, learning how to draw amazing yaoi art, all for the purpose of one day editing a silly wikipedia entry so as to have a reliable source showing notability for Kira Takenouchi? Think about it and you will realize how absurd that position is. Kxings (talk) 16:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxing

I also just came across this edit. We have a very strict no legal threat policy. So...I'm going to give you the opportunity to take it back your threat to sue right here. --Smashville^talk 15:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

How can he take back his threat if you blocked him? And he's entitled. You are basically accusing him of lying and constructing an elaborate universe of imaginary yaoi writers and companies all for the sake of meeting notability standards for this article. It's highly offensive. Kxings (talk) 16:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Kxing

He can still edit this page. --Smashville^talk 16:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

ANI - If you have responses, you can shoot me an e-mail or post here.

Hello, Katsumasahiro. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Troublesome Pair. Thank you. --Smashville^talk 16:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)