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Hi Jidanni. I've been looking into a fix for the rendering in text browsers of {{Morse}}. If I write a new draft template, are you able to help test it in text browsers? SpinningSpark 14:12, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm getting rather old. But it is easy to test yourself. Just use lynx or w3m! Jidanni (talk) 19:55, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
They are not designed for use on Windows 10 and it is likely to be an awful lot of bother to get them to work "To use this package, you need a compiler & a bit of experience at very simple programming..." is what I'm getting from the Lynx download. I'm doing my best to fix the problem you complained of. It's not unreasonable to ask you to help just a little bit. All I'm asking is to let me know whether or not my fixes are working for you. SpinningSpark 20:28, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
I have some test cases at User:Spinningspark/Sandbox#Morse test cases if you can be bothered to look. SpinningSpark 15:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
All the https://www.google.com/search?q=online+morse+decoder I found all use plain ASCII dots and dashes and spaces. Same with any program on my computer. Alas your program uses more complex symbols. So you need to convert those more complex symbols to plain ASCII dots and dashes and spaces, before you can test them on those online programs. https://www.google.com/search?q=online+text+substitution programs can be used to convert... Jidanni (talk) 19:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Why do you want to run this through an online program? I thought the whole issue was that the display on Wikipedia was not working for you. Can you confirm or not that it is now working for you in the test cases? I've removed the CSS opacity styling now so it should be working. If it is I can make it go live. There is no such characters as Morse "dot" and Morse "dash" in ASCII. The programs you link use punctuation characters which don't have the right timings, don't vertically align, and the word spaces aren't spaces but another character (slash usually). The character used in the Wikipedia template is a rarely used character, but it is still plain ASCII. SpinningSpark 08:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Well OK, but I would hope you stick to just
$ echo ABC EFG| /usr/games/morse -s | sed \$d | tr -d \\n ; echo
 .- -... -.-.  . ..-. --. 
output, as many such users might be piping their screens to disabled persons' assistive technology or whatever, and those black and white squares can't be counted on to work in all situations. Yes, worth it even if two spaces become one, etc. Jidanni (talk) 10:23, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
I doubt that text readers are going to be any better at reading a string of punctuation as dots and dashes than they are with block characters. What next, all images must be in ASCII art for ocmpatibility? SpinningSpark 11:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
And, I can't even copy and paste reliably those black and white boxes of yours. So would need to use a screenshot to show you what is going on in lynx and w3m. We are talking about big risks (as in the ACM Risks Digest) of loss of data. Jidanni (talk) 10:28, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
I can copy and paste the new version (but not the old version) without error into Notepad, so I don't see why Lynx should be a problem. SpinningSpark 11:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
OK, lynx -dump shows:
     * Lorem ipsum (wrapping test)

Draft template[edit]

     ▄▄▄   ▄   ▄ ▄ ▄   ▄▄▄  "TEST" in international Morse

     ▄ ▄ ▄ ▄   ▄   ▄▄▄▄   ▄▄▄▄   ▄  ▄       ▄ ▄▄▄   ▄▄▄▄   ▄▄▄▄  "HELLO
   ALL" in American Morse

     ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄   ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄   ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄   ▄
   ▄ ▄   ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄   ▄ ▄ ▄   ▄ ▄ ▄▄▄   ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄
   ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄   ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄   ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄   ▄
   ▄ ▄   ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄   ▄ ▄ ▄   ▄ ▄ ▄▄▄   ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄

(I only included the middle of your page.) Jidanni (talk) 13:00, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
So HELLO's L became four dashes. Jidanni (talk) 13:09, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Do you mean four dashes (because it isn't, each "L" is only a single dash as you have pasted them here) or do you mean that the "L"s are dashes four units long? If the latter, that is what they are meant to be. It is American Morse code which is quite different from International Morse code. SpinningSpark 14:38, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Oh, I see, the /usr/games/morse program was using a different version. Anyway, I suppose you are happy with the above output I posted. If there's anything else I can help you with, just ask. Jidanni (talk) 14:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)