Jb05-rsh

Nippo jisho

Considering the dictionary was published under the Portuguese title, it doesn't make sense to move it to the Japanese name. If it was going to be moved anywhere, the Portuguese name was the obvious candidate. --DannyWilde 23:09, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

The Library of Congress and most other libraries in the USA use the Japanese title. Assuming anyone actually wanted to find a copy of the book, one would NOT find it by searching for the Portuguese title. Jb05-rsh 23:12, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I do not mind you mind you changing the links in articles to "Vocabulario de Lingoa de Iapam." However, since anyone who would want to find the book needs to know the Japanese title, how about references to the book which contain a link to the article mention BOTH titles? Afterall, it has both titles, and the Japanese is the title used for listings in library catalogs, and the Portuguese is the title of the printed object. Would you agree to that? Jb05-rsh 23:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your insight into this. If this is the recognized name in English, then it is certainly OK to change the article into that title. I thought that you were changing it into that title because it represented the Japanese, rather than the English, name, but clearly you know more about the correct title in English than I do. Excuse me for raising this objection. Let's use "Nippo jisho" for the title. --DannyWilde 23:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I tried to move it back, but I couldn't move over the redirect page. To move it to "Nippo jisho" you'll need to ask an admin. In the meantime, I have moved it to "Nippo Jisho" with a capital J. --DannyWilde 23:48, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I suppose that is OK. Wikipedia is case sensitive so if both titles exist, one will redirect to the other. On a certain note the Libray of Congress guidlines on Japanese titles state that proper nouns like "Nippo" which means "Japan and Portugal" should be capitalized, but that nouns like "jisho" which means Dictionary should be uncapitalized. But I am not picky, as long as people can find the article and the book. Jb05-rsh 00:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia does not do that automatically. The redirect from Nippo jisho to Nippo Jisho was one I made manually. If you think that "Nippo jisho" is the correct name, we'll have to ask an admin to move it, because the move function won't allow it. By the way, let's copy this discussion onto the talk page of Nippo Jisho, so people can see the reason for the move of the page name. --DannyWilde 00:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)