User talk:Ifly6/Marcus Furius Camillus
Latest comment: 1 year ago by T8612 in topic Comments
Comments
editHi there T8612 and Avilich. If you have any comments on this draft article, especially relating to themes or topics of import that I may have simply omitted, I'd appreciate any comments you can provide. Ifly6 (talk) 17:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- The main source is Stephen Oakley, Commentary on Livy, vol. I, amazing work. Check also Ogilvie, Commentary on Livy 1-5, but really not as detailed. Germans wrote a lot about him, first is Münzer in the RE. See here for other works. T8612 (talk) 21:35, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Do you know how to get access to that volume? I'll take a look at possibly helping transcribe Furius 44 from scans; it's worthwhile to have done. Ifly6 (talk) 04:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- If you have university access, I think you can get it through Oxford Scholarship Online. Otherwise you can buy a subscription there and you get access to all these books. Oakley's Commentaries are the best academic sources for the Roman 4th century BC. T8612 (talk) 16:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't have university access. It also doesn't seem available at any library at all. If you have access, please add anything you think especially relevant. I will eventually finish transcribing Furius 44 and will incorporate that into the article if possible. Ifly6 (talk) 03:35, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- If you have university access, I think you can get it through Oxford Scholarship Online. Otherwise you can buy a subscription there and you get access to all these books. Oakley's Commentaries are the best academic sources for the Roman 4th century BC. T8612 (talk) 16:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Do you know how to get access to that volume? I'll take a look at possibly helping transcribe Furius 44 from scans; it's worthwhile to have done. Ifly6 (talk) 04:31, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- T.P. Wiseman, The Myths of Rome, Liverpool University Press (2004) has some content on Camillus at pages 126-30. Even if it adds nothing to what you already wrote, it at least diversifies the pool of sources beyond the usual, easy-to-access pair of Cornell and Forsythe. Avilich (talk) 17:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Notes from Ogilvie
editLivy's book is symmetric and largely related to the gods: when they are pious they win, when they are not, they lose. This is driven by how well they cleave to Camillus, "the fatalis dux whose name betokens a life spent in service of the gods". p 626.