Hot man summer
May 2024 edit
Hello. Your recent edit to La Follette High School appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Creating a new account doe not change anything. Meters (talk) 01:03, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did at La Follette High School, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Meters (talk) 01:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at La Follette High School, you may be blocked from editing. bump to level 3. You were already at level 2 on your IP. You restored unsourced lower level finishes (which we would not mention even if sourced), and the only source you added did not support all of your claimed team titles. Meters (talk) 01:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Care to explain how you can claim this school won WIAA boy's volleyball titles in 1987 and 1989 [1] when the WiAA did not offer boy's volleyball from 1983 to 1991, and did not have a championship again until 2000? https://www.wiaawi.org/Sports/Fall/Boys-Volleyball/State-Results-Archive Meters (talk) 01:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Similarly, there was no WIAA football championship prior to in 1976 https://www.wiaawi.org/Sports/Fall/Football/State-Results-Archive, but you claim the school won a WIAA championship in 1967. Prior to 1976 there were only news service polls, not true championships. Meters (talk) 01:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the volleyball but my school has a football trophy from 1967 so I thought it was a championship. Why can't I list individual state championship? Hot man summer (talk) 02:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Individual results are not school results. Individual results are not encyclopedic and we don't mention non-notable students by name. See WP:WPSCH/AG, in particular WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI Meters (talk) 03:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- how are individual state champ not school results? I can literally send you pictures of banners that the school hanged that say state champ on them Hot man summer (talk) 15:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- How about you go fix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_East_High_School this page cause it makes my edits look like nothing Hot man summer (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- how are individual state champ not school results? I can literally send you pictures of banners that the school hanged that say state champ on them Hot man summer (talk) 15:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Individual results are not school results. Individual results are not encyclopedic and we don't mention non-notable students by name. See WP:WPSCH/AG, in particular WP:WPSCH/AG#WNTI Meters (talk) 03:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the volleyball but my school has a football trophy from 1967 so I thought it was a championship. Why can't I list individual state championship? Hot man summer (talk) 02:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at La Follette High School. Stop adding improperly sourced information. The lead is a summary of the rest of the article. It is not a place to add new material, particularly not material that is mostly unsourced. Meters (talk) 20:28, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- sorry I forget that my own eyes can't be a source on here. How about now do you got any problem with it? Hot man summer (talk) 00:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- No. For example, your supposed source says absolutely nothing about the athletic facility changes. Stop messing around. Provide proper sources for your change or leave this alone. I'll get back to it and do mor work when I feel like it.
- what do mean my source does says absolutely nothing about the athletic facility changes. are you blind? cause when I looked I found 5 references to changes around the athletic wing. plus your source is out of date Hot man summer (talk) 04:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't insert your reply in front of my post. I've moved it. And please read WP:NPA. Another comment like "Are you blind?" and I'll report you. I see no mention of the athletic facility work at your link https://lafollette.madison.k12.wi.us/about-us/school-news That's a top level page with 18 linked pages under it, and they are not even all visible on the landing page. It is not an appropriate ref. If there are specific linked pages that support your particular claims then use those pages as refs. Don't expect people to keep reading all the linked pages and then clicking the "load more" button until they find what you are referring to. And it would be preferable to use independent sources, rather than the school's own pages. That's what my ref was. It was an independent news source discussing the athletic facilities changes that had been made. It was not "out of date" for the claims i was using it for. I intended to continue working on this article and find independent sources for the more recent work, but I'm starting to get tired of dealing with you. Again, use proper sourcing or leave it alone. You are on a level 4 warning, and if you keep this up you may end up blocked. Meters (talk) 05:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- my apologies about the blind joke. I didn't really want to link 8 different pages so I just put the landing page. and on the independent source idk what you want. I know why you want a independent source but this is the most up to date source there is on this topic. plus how would construction update be bias. But if you want me too I will go through all the pages and reference them individually. actually your source is semi out of date, the spec gym is not being turned into classroom, it has turned into new music classroom Hot man summer (talk) 05:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Construction updates from the school are acceptable, but independent media sources would be best. One reason is that the pages are much more likely to remain available in the future. Even if they are no longer online a ref to a media story with a date title and byline can still be sourced and verified, unlike a disappeared update page on a school's web site. That's another reason why you should never use a landing page as a ref.
- Just use the proper sources and be done with it. Meters (talk) 05:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- ok I will look for a independent source Hot man summer (talk) 12:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- I have a question about how independent does it have to be? can I use the school district website not the school site but the school district website? https://www.madison.k12.wi.us/about/referendum/2020-referenda-construction-phase/construction-articles/~board/la-follette-high-school/post/major-progress-in-the-pac-and-technical-education-wing Hot man summer (talk) 18:26, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's no more independent than the school's page, and has the exact same problems. In fact, it is the same page, just hosted on the school district page/url. Meters (talk) 04:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- and that's why I asked thank you Hot man summer (talk) 14:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's no more independent than the school's page, and has the exact same problems. In fact, it is the same page, just hosted on the school district page/url. Meters (talk) 04:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- my apologies about the blind joke. I didn't really want to link 8 different pages so I just put the landing page. and on the independent source idk what you want. I know why you want a independent source but this is the most up to date source there is on this topic. plus how would construction update be bias. But if you want me too I will go through all the pages and reference them individually. actually your source is semi out of date, the spec gym is not being turned into classroom, it has turned into new music classroom Hot man summer (talk) 05:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please don't insert your reply in front of my post. I've moved it. And please read WP:NPA. Another comment like "Are you blind?" and I'll report you. I see no mention of the athletic facility work at your link https://lafollette.madison.k12.wi.us/about-us/school-news That's a top level page with 18 linked pages under it, and they are not even all visible on the landing page. It is not an appropriate ref. If there are specific linked pages that support your particular claims then use those pages as refs. Don't expect people to keep reading all the linked pages and then clicking the "load more" button until they find what you are referring to. And it would be preferable to use independent sources, rather than the school's own pages. That's what my ref was. It was an independent news source discussing the athletic facilities changes that had been made. It was not "out of date" for the claims i was using it for. I intended to continue working on this article and find independent sources for the more recent work, but I'm starting to get tired of dealing with you. Again, use proper sourcing or leave it alone. You are on a level 4 warning, and if you keep this up you may end up blocked. Meters (talk) 05:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)