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Latest comment: 14 years ago by 68.147.41.231

Einstein’s train experiment doesn’t hold true if two strobe of lightening strike the longitudinal sides of a moving train instead of its front and rear for any observer in its panoramic view especially if stand exactly at front or rear of the train.

Similarly Sir Einstien inoculated general relativity with the help of principle equivalence and space elevator but flubbed with frame of reference as a person standing on the floor of accelarating elevator should move towards the centre of elevator due to universal law of gravitation, inter alia, the direction of his weight force is not clear wrt accelaration g, like w=mg on ground; w is always towards the center of gravitating mass/ along g. Similarly, other faults will be provided upon interest..

Sir Galileo pointed out that if you are on a ship moving on a smooth sea, your frame of reference is on the ship. If a stone dropped from the top of the mast you will see it fall straight down. An observer on shore will see the stone moving sideways at the speed of the ship. As it accelerates downward it describes a parabola. Sir Newton said that the gravitational field of matter causes the path of an object to curve while Sir Einstein said that every object moves in a straight line is space-time, but that matter causes space-time to curve [source: internet].

Anyway all above critiques may be wrong but aforementioned ostensible parabola and conspicuous glitches which belies the ramification of relativity obsesses me into the gamut of gist and therefore posits the following innate coin for the mooted subject matter of enigma.

Let smooth sea is a flat surface of earth and there are two observers O1 and O2 such that O1 is inside a moving ship while O2 is on the shore. Assume the friction is negligible between flat surface and a ship. Now imagine there are “n" numbers of straight vertical gravitational lines (GL) [n = GL1, GL2, GL3 .…….........GLn] originated from the flat surface and each has “g m/s/s” capacity with unique color.

Case No.1: At Rest

When both ship and surface of sea is at rest w.r.t each other:

An object accelerates straight downward due to any of above the said [GL] for both O1 and O2 if drop from the top of the mast.

Thus an object fall only on one standstill imaginary GL which is perpendicular to the flat surface.  

Case No.2: Ground is at rest while Ship is moving  

By my reckoning, when a ship is moving on a resting smooth surface of sea, it comes across new gravitational line each time when it moves from point A to B. For simplicity, lets study the said trial falling object in a two very small hiatus such that the difference between them is too small to be either separated or measured.

First Evanescence:

It starts accelerating straight downward on any of aforementioned GL say GL1 at any given very very small instant “t1".

Second Evanescence:

A trail object in the very next substantial interval of time, doesn’t hop over the oncoming GL say “GL2" but it is "GL2" which takes the position of  "GL1" in quiescent frame of ship, due to progression of ship and thus accelerates it again in a straight downward direction with no time missing and so on.  

Note: Don't be confused with a moving ship and inside rest frame in which the object is falling.


Please consider the following if it is difficult to pry into the crux of coin out of aforementioned.


Case No. 3: Ground is moving while ship is at rest  

This case just opposite to case number 2.   Now the flat surface starts moving with a condition that a ship resting on it, doesn’t move along with surface but at rest at its original position. Thus an object, if drop from the top of the mast, accelerates straight downward due to continuous transient GLs passes through an object for both O1 and O2, although O2 is moving away from a stationary ship. The gravity pull of each GL on an object is too ephemeral to be captured/ noticed unless an object leaves a color mark on each GL.

Thus a specious parabola in myth can easily be extracted from a latent/ discernible straight line by joining all such traces/ marks on each GL that are left by falling object after passing through it,

Elimination of ostensible parabola and construction of a real straight line:

Now let O2 drops an object on any GL which moves w.r.t the stationary ship. O2 will observe that an object accelerates downward on a straight vertical GL in his frame of reference while O1 also observes an object scamper down on a GL while moving away from him. This can easily be noticeable if it is assumed that all other local GLs are invisible if not O1 will again bungle with ostensible parabola. This is how O1 will see the actual fading of a GL [doppler effect] on which an object is falling.


SAME SCENARIO BUT THE OTHER WAY"


Imagine a train rests on any arc length AB of a big sphere [earth] and  we have two observers O1and O2. O1 is inside train while O2 is outside [may be in front or rear] on ground surface.

Now sphere starts rotating with uniform speed with a condition that a train doesn’t move along with its rotation but at rest at its original position. Thus at each and every single small fraction of time, O1 will face a unique color of GL of earth while O2 [rest on any GL] moves away circumferentially due to rotation of sphere from the stationary train.

Thus during the rotation of sphere, an object accelerates straight down towards the train’s floor, if drops from it's  ceiling. The situation purported to be the same for both O1 and O2, although O2 is moving away from the train as sphere rotates.

In a nutshell, a line joining the marks left by falling object on each GL, accrue to an ostensible parabola in delusion, but verily, a palpable eduction of aura of straight vertical line for a shore/ platform observer [hypothetically].

Thus after delving fully into the aforementioned fallacy and understanding of the subtle nuances through abstruse reasoning I may be wrong but with an a-posteriori arguments it is doubted that laureates presented the nitty-gritty idea erroneously and botched to conceive explicitly the unsubstantiated realm of notion albeit rewarding.

Thus Quoth the Zarmewa Khattak, time is a-priori deemed absolute per se and may be an enternal dimension of the head of Pantheon's who wants to be beyond cognizance and paranormal.

I'm not a good eloquent due to some inexplicable reasons but hope an animation of this will take just a couple of seconds to get into the idea.

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Asst. Prof; Peshawar, Pakistan. B.Sc (Civil Eng), M.Sc (Eng), PGD (Urban & Regional Planning), PGD (Local Government - Only course work) -All from Peshawar Pakistan.24.114.237.34 (talk) 23:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)  Reply

I think maybe what you are not considering is what a "straight line" is, you use the term but don't define it. Einstein says that an object takes the "shortest path through the geodesic" - so a straight line actually travels through a spacetime curved by adjacent masses. "Straight" depends on where the observer is. Franamax (talk) 09:45, 3 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

A closed inside rest environment of any moving ship/ vehicle always remains the same because of the rapid replacement of GLs with no time missing due to it's progression therefore GLs at any instant t in such an environment, force the things again towards the center of earth. 

Hence an imaginary object when fall in such a closed environment but moving will face new GL at every small interval of time. GL at any given instant "t" through the falling object pull it straight down but for a very short interval of time and then leave the opportunity for oncoming GL to do the same and so on.

Although an ostensible parabola is formed by joining all such points on each GL which passes through an imaginary falling object but in fact each GL pull object straight down not at an angle during its passage through it and therefore stacking of all such points is an absolute vertical straight line. 

You used the word "may" and "not defining the straight line" means my idea is abortive but I' m very clear in my mind about this as it is an absolute straight vertical line than presented by Sir Einstien. I will try to make an animation of this.

May be it's hard for me to convince you further because of my poor communication skills although I am a good presenter therefore I thank you for your time. [Spammer#1-420] 68.147.41.231 (talk) 04:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Case #3 and train on any arc length of sphere shows the extraction of parabolla and the falling of an object inside closed rest environment of ship or train is the formation of absolute straight vertical line. So it also shows the transfer of object's touching instant [point] with each GL from actual vertical straight line to delusional parabola.

The duration of an object on each GL of parabola can be transfered easily to absolute straight vertical line with the help of T-Squar [if you have drawing concept].68.147.41.231 (talk) 17:22, 5 October 2010 (UTC)Reply