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February 2011
editWelcome to Wikipedia. The project's content policies require that all articles be written from a neutral point of view, and not introduce bias or give undue weight to viewpoints. Please bear this in mind when making edits such as your recent edit to Montenegro. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Alan the Roving Ambassador (talk) 16:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Please don't arbitrarily change "Serbian" to "Montenegrin" in articles, such as Jovan Vladimir. Such a change would require reliable third-party references. Thank you. (Please discuss such changes on the talk page first, and don't perform them without consensus.) - Mike Rosoft (talk) 15:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- Again, please explain why you keep changing "Serbian" to "Montenegrin". Do you have a reference for it? - Mike Rosoft (talk) 15:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Montenegrins are NOT Serbs. Serbs are fabricating Montenegrin history, and history of all other nations in the Balkan peninsula. All peoples in the Balkans know this fact (Montenegrins, Croats, Bosnians, Albanians, Macedonians).
- So what? I am not disputing that Serbs and Montenegrins are distinct. So once again, what reference do you have to change the identity of Jovan Vladimir, Zelenaši, etc. to Montenegrin? Even if you believe that you are right, you can't arbitrarily change information in articles. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 15:47, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- St. Vladimir Doclean and Montenegrin Greens were not Serbs, it is a historical fact ... it's not something I just "think arbitrarily". If you do not believe me, you ask anyone from the Montenegrin diaspora in America, Canada, Australia etc.
Serbs are engaged in falsification of the Montenegrin history since the time of Ilija Garasanin, it's a part of their project of Serbianization of all South Slavs. For the second time, even if you believe that you are right, content in Wikipedia articles needs to be referenced by reliable sources. (You have all but admitted that you have none.) Wikipedia is not a soapbox. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Again, if you really interested in the history of Montenegro, then ask people who know much better to explain it in English because they know all the phrases that can describe the Serbian genocide and ethnocide against our people.
Of course that Wikipedia is not a soap opera, but that chetnik also has NO "reliable sources", all he has are fabrications created by SANU and Serb Orthodox church after the occupation of Montenegro by Serbia in 1918. His so called source "Ivo Banac" is a former communist and a serbophile from Croatia...his quote is his personal opinion and his own delusion...Ivo Banac is not a Montenegrin, and not the "Green"...and even most of the Croats consider him a traitor of the Croatian people...but you wouldn't know about it because you do not live in the Balkans and you do not know anything about the political situation in here. St. Vladimir Doclean was not "Serb Orthodox" becouse there was no Serb Orthodox church at that time, SOC was founded by St Sava Nemanjić, from the Serb House of Nemanjić in 12th-13th century...Nemanjić family were the first Serbian occupiers of Duklja. St Vladimir lived in 10th century...so it's obvious that he could not be "Serb Orthodox". I know that Serbs complaining that they are supposedly "threatened" or "endangered", but actually, they are the threat to all other south Slavic nations...and they have the protection of Russia in their project of creating the "Greater Serbia" (Serb fascist project of Serbisation created by Ilija Garašanin in 1844 - Načertanije).
I guess, I have no reason to write anything here, not any more...Croatian and Bosnian Wikipedia write the truth about Montenegro and Montenegrins because they know about the Serbian lies, they know what kind of people they are, and they will never allow them to impose their fairy tales as a mock history...It is easy for Serbs to lie to you because you do not know them so well as we do...and therefore, you did not allow the creation of the Montenegrin Wikipedia...because of the Serbian devious and crafty deceptions...and our Montenegrin online encyclopedia (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Crnogorska_Enciklopedija) has been destroyed in 2008. due to vandalism of Serbian hackers ("Black Hand")...because the truth hurts the Serbian hegemony/assimilation!
All about the Montenegrin saints, including St Vladimir, can be found here (http://www.montenegro-canada.com/cpc_toronto.html)... You can also ask about the Greens and other Montenegrin historical facts in here (http://www.montenegro.org.au/ukratko_o_nama.html), and especially here, please read all, if you have any kind of understanding of our situation: 1. http://www.montenegro.org/ http://www.montenegro.org/religion.html 2. http://www.montenegrina.net/pages/pages_e/history/duklja_the_first_montenegrin_state_first_dinasty_Vojislavljevic.htm 3. http://montenegrowa.org/istorija1.html
Well, that's all from me, no hard feelings please, I hope you'll have understanding...farewell :-(