Doclys

Zak Johnson

Hello Doclys

I hope you can help me please,,,,

You removed an edit I made regarding Zak Johnson's birth date recently and I'm just trying to get it resolved as it's been published incorrectly ever since his information first appeared on Wikipedia. I am actually his father and can certainly provide his birth certificate as a reliable source but I have no idea how to verify his correct birth date otherwise? Please advise how I can publish Zak's correct date of birth as it should read 25th May 2005?

Thank you in advance for any help you can offer to correct this information.

Regards

Phil Johnson

Pjay77 (talk) 20:25, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Pjay77, birth certificates are typically considered WP:PRIMARY sources, especially for content about living persons. They may not always meet Wikipedia's standards for WP:RELIABILITY and are often challenged unless used alongside reliable WP:SECONDARY sources.

If you can find a reliable secondary source (like a news article or biography) that cites Zak Johnson's birth date, it would strengthen the case for updating his page. Thank you. — doclys (❀) 05:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello Doclys and thank you for your prompt reply.

I think the source of the incorrect DOB originates from a Football Players database and these are notoriously incorrect with their details but once they're published it's very difficult to change.

However, I noticed in the Playing Career paragraph on Wikipedia that it mentions quite correctly that Zak made his debut for Sunderland in the EFL Trophy on October 13th 2021 when he was age 16 years and 141 days old and this appearance made Zak the youngest outfield player to play for Sunderland in almost 50 years. This fact is correct and if you do the Maths, it certainly proves his date of birth to be 25th May 2005.

I hope this can now be corrected and my edit accepted?

Thanks for your help

Regards

Phil Johnson Pjay77 (talk) 20:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for the delayed response. I suggest bringing up this issue on the article's talk page for other editors to review. You can also bring this to the attention of experienced editors at WP:BLPN for further assistance. Thank you. — doclys (❀) 06:18, 8 June 2024 (UTC)