User talk:Debeo Morium/Chats/Metaphysics

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General Commentary

I find your contributions in the paranormal, et al. articles to be quite interesting as well as the general arguing between the various camps in the respective talk pages. You have been diligently aiming for NPOV in these things unlike so many others.

I find it hard to believe that the hard-line science types don't notice the rather extremely biased POV that they consistantly introduce into these articles. There seems to be a whole army of them all over the paranormal articles carefully rewording in attempt to dissuade the reader of the slightest possibility that there is any truth to the lot of it. Yet, on the other side, the believers don't often seem to understand what it takes to make a piece of information, however subjective, acceptable for Wikipedia. Sources, people -- use them!

Your quite accurate contention that science, itself, is a faith appears completely meaningless to the nothing-but-science-matters folks. They simply cannot recognize that everything they experience is *merely* an awareness within their consciousness and that the very existance of an objective universe is entirely an assumption. Yet, they take it as absolutely true that we are [exactly] sentient animals living as part of an ecosystem on a rock orbiting a star, etc. Of course, too many of these same people would argue that we haven't got a tangible consciousness at all -- that our seeming sense-of-self is just an illusion created by brain-wetware.

I just don't understand why such a large group of intelligent, seemingly reasonable people feel so certain about what the world "really is and isn't" while completely discounting the expansive experiences of so many others -- experiences that strongly indicate that there is so very much more than we casually see. Slarti42 (talk) 19:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)