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Thanks! Dayshade (talk) 00:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions on Dinosaurs

Hi Dayshade, We’ve noticed that you edited articles related to Dinosaurs. Thank you for your great contributions. Keep it up! Bobo.03 (talk) 03:43, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

whom

I've replied to your question on my talk page about whom. --Thnidu (talk) 21:38, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Do not revert 9-year-old edits to change grammar. That is disruptive. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 11:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

SarekOfVulcan - can you explain how it is disruptive? Would it not have been if it was a 9-hour-old edit? If not, why is not restoring the page to how it was originally written (e.g. undoing a disruptive, snobbish edit) in a manner that people actually speak (ignoring some minor dialects and what some folk use after being mistakenly taught to be "correct" in school)? If you don't respond within a few days in a way that acknowledges that use of who in place of whom when not after prepositions as well as ending sentences in prepositions are the dominant natural forms (and a regularly used form after prepositions, albeit not dominant) for English speakers, I will revert your reverts. Dayshade (talk) 13:57, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Per WP:RETAIN, When an English variety's consistent usage has been established in an article, maintain it in the absence of consensus to the contrary. With few exceptions (e.g., when a topic has strong national ties or a term/spelling carries less ambiguity), there is no valid reason for such a change. That's why you don't change a 9-year-old edit. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

SarekOfVulcan - The original edit violated WP:RETAIN (that is, I've only attempted to replace whom with who when there was such an edit. There are plenty of edits where the original author used whom that I don't plan to attempt to change per the policy, which I was aware of). How do you respond to that? Why does the age matter? Dayshade (talk) 21:13, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

You're seriously going to try to contend that since someone may have violated a guideline over 9 years ago, you're justified in violating it today? Good luck with that. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 21:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't agree that it's a violation, since the article was originally written without whom as is shown in the link. Perhaps it would be wise for unambiguous policy to be created on this, so that I can give up and move on instead of hoping there's some way for this unnatural language that I would never hear in real life by someone other than my grandmother to be removed. Would it have been correct to revert that edit if it'd been spotted shortly after it was made? Dayshade (talk) 21:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)