Cori.mcnicol
Welcome!
Hello, Cori.mcnicol, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Jordan Santiago, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.
There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:
- Starting an article
- Your first article
- Biographies of living persons
- How to write a great article
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- Help pages
- Tutorial
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
The article Jordan Santiago has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league.
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
PROD protocols
editWhen contesting the proposed deletion of an article, as you did with Jordan Santiago, please state your reason for doing so in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:29, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
November 2011
edit
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Jordan Santiago. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
Re: Jordan Santiago
editWhat it boils down to is this, in order to meet the inclusion criteria, a footballer must have played for in a fully professional league. While Cardiff City is pro, as you pointed out, Mr. Santiago is yet actually play any games for them. Best Regards. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:58, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, I'm afraid not. The problem isn't with the formatting or how the article is written, but with the subject. In order for a certain subject to merit an article on wikipedia, it must meet certain inclusion criteria, called notability. For footballers, there are two relevant notability criteria: the general notability guideline, which says that any subject which has received significant coverage in reliable sources is considered notable, and football specific notability guideline, which says that any footballer who has played in a fully professional league or for his/her country's national team is notable. If and when Santiago makes his debut for Cardiff City, you are more than welcome to recreate the article, but at present the article fails both the guidelines I outlined earlier. Please don't take this personally. It is not intended to reflect on the quality of the work you've put into the article. In fact, I'd go so far as to say the article is better written than most articles on footballers. Best regards. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)