User talk:Caseydud/Politics and Pop Culture In the United States

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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedy deleted as having no substantive content, because... We are working on developing this page as part of a Wikipedia project. Please do not delete. --Johnsc74 (talk) 12:44, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Should the article be kept....

The part that gives two definitions of the two topics from two different sources must be deleted as original research. We cannot bring together two different sources that talk about 2 different things and then connect them together; Wikipedia rules call that synthesis. In any event, we don't really need definitions of politics or pop culture, as those definitions belong on the linked pages anyway. This article should cover only what reliable sources who have already looked at the intersection have said about the combined topic. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:02, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

I take it the section title is to be read as "if this article is kept rather than deleted, then ..."? I don't think I agree with your conclusion. The two definitions are independent, as you say (they could surely be improved upon, but they seem arguably relevant to the topic), but I don't think there is any actual synthesis here -- on the contrary, they are dropped into the article without comment. I suspect they should be removed anyway, as they don't contribute much, but synthesis requires more than implication via juxtaposition. If I were actively editing this article I'd cut those sentences, but the students may have other ideas. Let's see what they produce. (Of course, if you want to go ahead and improve the article now, I don't mean that you shouldn't.) Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:58, 18 October 2011 (UTC)