CJC-DI

Dahmer

Read pages 92 and 93 of Masters' book. Quite clear he did more than jerk off while fondling them.--Kieronoldham (talk) 20:11, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

This is my first time using "user talk." I'm sorry if I do this wrong! Unfortunately, my copy is without page numbers. I'm not sure which part you're referencing, so I'l have to quote excessively. Apologies! At first Masters talks about conscious partners and how it was a "more strenuous exercise" to satisfy them. Then Dahmer started to give them sleeping pills and Masters says, "A number of young men were subjected to this treatment without any harm coming to them, a fact we know not just from Dahmer’s own account, but from testimony of people who remember being with him." Then he was kicked out after one guy didn't wake up for two days. And then Masters describes what Dahmer was doing to them both in the bathhouses and the hotel: "The crucial circumstance, both at the bathhouse and at the hotel, is not so much that he drugged his partners, as how he behaved to them afterwards. Having robbed them of the opportunity for ‘heavy’ sex, he would then lie next to them and imagine that they belonged to him. Whereas he had difficulty in achieving an erection while they were awake, once they slept his capacity for tumescence was totally restored, and he would masturbate three or four times during the long encounter. At other times he would fondle them and enjoy their proximity. He was in control, with nothing to disturb him and no necessity to rush or feel pressure to perform. After a few hours, he, too, would fall asleep next to the prostrate body, sometimes holding it. Most peculiar of all, he would spend a great deal of time lying with his head on the man’s chest, listening to his heart-beat, or on the man’s stomach, listening to the sounds of his body."

Thanks for your reply. We're all striving to improve the article. The trial testimony on this video (14.49-16.27) covers his actions in the bathhouses. He'd engage in light sex with his partner before and after drugging them. Heavy sex was what he also enjoyed and he would perform this with them once they were drugged and thus immobile.--Kieronoldham (talk) 20:50, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Just made a slight tweak to your edit. You are obv. well-read on this subject. If you want to adjust my edit. Be my guest. Best regards, --Kieronoldham (talk) 20:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I guess that's a good compromise! Thanks!

Hello! Can I ask you something? I'm not trying to make Dahmer look like a harmless person. He was a cold-blooded murderer. But one thing has been nagging at me... Is it appropriate to include the claims that he raped some soldiers in Germany? I mean, he was very forthcoming about his crimes. In numerous sessions with psychiatrists, detectives, FBI agents, he was adamant that he did not have homosexual relations while in Germany. He said that he had discovered homosexual pornography there and used it for masturbation. And that one time an older sergant propositioned him, but Dahmer turned him down. In this period, he was still conflicted about fully embrassing his sexuality. Raping some soldiers in Germany doesn't fit his psychological profile either. His journey into depravity was one of gradual escalation. As soon as the news about Dahmer broke out, the media went to inteview everyone they could find. Of his time in Germany everyone said that all he did was drink until he passed out on his bed. If he had raped some soldiers in Germany, why would he conceal it? He had already told how he raped, killed, engaged in necrophilia, dismembered, cannibalized, zombified people. Why conceal it and risk being exposed? His honesty was his only saving grace. The guy that claims that Dahmer was beating him and raping him for 7 months... It's just not Dahmer's MO, and the guy does not fit Dahmer's profile at all (he was obsessed with a certain body type). So, my question is can we remove that paragraph? Because as it stands now, it's a baseless claim that was made years and years after his death.

Hi, CJC-DI. Thanks for your message. I did not receive notification of receipt of it as you needed to "ping" me (use this template in future: Kieronoldham ). Personally I agree with you. I do not believe it appropriate to include these claims (at least outside of a note). I did attempt to remove those claims about six years ago, but met resistance from an editor who took exception to my efforts. As I say, I do not believe the claims personally. He had nothing to lose by not admitting them, given everything he confessed to, including murders and disappearances which would never have been linked to him had he not confessed. You may wish to add an entry on the article's talk page proposing this. Regards, --Kieronoldham (talk) 21:16, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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By the way, pal, you may with to create your user page so your account appears across Wikipedia in blue text. Some may believe your account is brand new otherwise. Hope you stay on here. Regards, --Kieronoldham (talk) 19:25, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Happy Christmas

Happy Christmas!

Have a pleasant and enjoyable Christmas, Tanya. All the best for 2022. :)--Kieronoldham (talk) 21:48, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Kieron! Merry Christmas! CJC-DI (talk) 20:55, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Tony Leung Chiu-wai

Ah, I noticed that "In the Mood for Love" was written twice under Best Actor award, but didn't notice that both were awarded by different organisations. Thanks for clarifying! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mygazthehealer (talk • contribs) 16:04, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

It happens! CJC-DI (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2022 (UTC).

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Happy Christmas, Tanya. All the best for 2023, too.Kieronoldham (talk) 12:35, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Merry Christmas to you too! CJC-DI (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

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All the best for 2024 too. :)Kieronoldham (talk) 21:25, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Happy Christmas! CJC-DI (talk) 09:14, 23 December 2023 (UTC)