User talk:Bs1jac/Archive 1

Individual match format

I noticed that during the last season, you argued for a detailed match information for individual matches. And I completely agree with you. I'd be glad if you could join the discussion at Talk:2015–16 Manchester United F.C. season for the same. Coderzombie (talk) 17:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. Seems that one or two people want to stick with the old format but very much worth putting an argument for progress. I am currently adding season statistics for historical seasons (1960s)... generally avoid current season editing for United as there are too many people doing so! Bs1jac (talk) 19:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Royal London One-Day Cup Group B

Yeah, sorry about that first edit. I got confused by the fact that a match was ongoing between Notts and Glam at the same time, but then I realised my mistake and restored the data. I'm going to add batting and bowling stats tables for each of the three competitions once the season's over, but that's about the only thing I could think of to add. Perhaps a list of transfers, e.g. Andy Carter going on loan to Glam twice this season, which would clear up any confusion in the squad list? – PeeJay 10:01, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Stats tables

Hi. I was thinking about making the stats tables at the 2016 Kent article sortable - there's a way we can deal with the names and the rest will sort just lovely. Rather like I've done on the 1906 etc... pages. Any problem with that? Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Not at all. When I started on these pages I just copied tables from (I think) Glamorgan season pages. Often thought about making them sortable but have never got round to it. I do a lot of work on the "list of [country] [odi/t20/test] cricketers" pages, some of which are nicely sortable (particularly the associate nations, some of which I started); less so the likes of Australia that have long lists and would need more work than I am prepared to do! If you are happy to make the changes to the Kent pages I'd be delighted... Bs1jac (talk) 09:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting out the non-sortable aspects - that's something I've not done before so it's interesting to see different ways of going about it. Now all we need is a dry afternoon at Bristol... Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

I hear it was a bit of a farce this morning with play not resuming after bad light much to the disbelief of everyone there! Fingers crossed for a flurry of runs and a good bowling effort... otherwise it is season over!

2017 Independence Cup

Hi! You recently changed a tournament's external link from the page into a tournament's news-collection-link, but you didn't give edit summary for that. News can be given in references, but tournament/match detals could be seen from the external links. Well, I don't think it would be helpful, if you think it is so please can you explain? Thanks! M. Billoo 00:34, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

My understanding was that these links usually go to the tournament homepage (news), as this contains more information than just match results. I may be wrong though and feel it makes little difference. Bs1jac (talk)

And it starts again

Kent County Cricket Club in 2018 - feel free to add whatever you can, whenever you can. Particularly if it relates in any way to captaincy... Blue Square Thing (talk) 21:57, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for setting up the page! I had been meaning to do so but work commitments have limited me to updates and fixes rather than any creation lately. I will absolutely be helping to keep it up to date and will put some arrivals/departures in as usual at some point. Could be a tough season though... Bs1jac (talk) 16:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

New lists for international women teams

Hello Bs1jac. Thanks for all your contributions. I've some work for you related to your area. Recently, few women teams made their international t20 debut and their lists are missing. If you're interested then you can create following missing lists:

• List of Malaysia women Twenty20 International cricketers
• List of Papua New Guinea women Twenty20 International cricketers
• List of Scotland women Twenty20 International cricketers
• List of Thailand women Twenty20 International cricketers
• List of Uganda women Twenty20 International cricketers
• List of United Arab Emirates women Twenty20 International cricketers

Thanks in anticipation.Störm (talk) 11:39, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Hello Störm. thanks for your note and for recognizing the work I have been doing to maintain these lists. I have been thinking that these should be created and would love to help although am a little busy over the next few days (will do some soon if not already created). I also wondered if these players were likely to have Wiki entries. I am also aware that it is going to become increasingly difficult to maintain these articles when all ICC associate members gain T20I status in 2019. Bs1jac (talk) 09:40, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Bs1jac No hurry, do it whenever possible. Yes, they all already have entries. See it in this category Category:Women Twenty20 International cricketers. Störm (talk) 09:45, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Störm All done. Team have one more game in the qualifier, will update after this but can't commit to keeping the women's pages up to date as often as the men's pages.Bs1jac (talk) 11:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@Bs1jac I have updated some these teams and will keep updating whenever I get time. However, I was facing one issue which I fixed my own way. But want your idea on that. There are multiple cases where the best bowling figure is 2/0 or 3/0. To have this sorted properly, I am updating as {{sort|400|3/0}. Do you think it's ok or any better suggestions from your end? I had created 3/4 lists as well. Although all of those teams are appearing in this list but some them are not appearing in the list of teams which comes at the end of these pages. Would you please tell me what I am missing? E.g. List of Brazil team is appearing in the T20I list whereas Zimbabwe is not appearing. And both these are created by me.mitratanmoy 09:36, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mitratanmoy: Hi there. Thanks for doing these. I have not been able to create/maintain these lists for women's teams due to the amount of time spent researching the various men's series and maintaining player lists. If you could focus primarily on the women's teams for a while that would be doing a great service to WP:CRICKET. Here are the answers that you need. For the bowling figures where wickets were taken (and hence the 'best figures' is required) but no runs were conceded, you could do what you have done it just means that 2/0 and 2/1 would be the same. Or you could extend ALL of the best figures in that particular list to include an additional digit so that 2/20 would be |2180|2/20 instead of |280|2/20 (i.e take runs conceded away from 200 instead of 100. Therefore 2/0 would be |2200|2/0 and 2/1 would be |2199|2/1. Does that make sense? In most lists that isn't needed, only if someone has best figures with 0 runs conceded. you would need to change the format of this value for all players that have taken wickets in that list. Regarding the list of teams in the template, you need to edit the template (there should be an 'e' in the template, or you can go here Template:International women cricketers - just copy the line for another team and paste into the correct spot. Bs1jac (talk) 10:03, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

@Bs1jac.Yep!; Pretty much makes sense. But with the rise of teams like Mali, I think there will be more and more cases coming up with this scenario. So figuring out was necessary. And thanks! Now those teams are appearing. mitratanmoy 19:28, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

@Mitratanmoy: You are welcome. I have just created the China list... I have not been keeping up with these for the women's sides, but if you are prepared to do some, I am happy to do one or two as well! Bs1jac (talk) 20:09, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

T20I lists

Great work with these lists - thank you for starting them. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 13:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Cheers! Bs1jac (talk) 13:55, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

No probs. Just a note, incase you weren't aware, the cricket notability for players was updated last year when the ICC changed the status on T20I matches. For these new sides gaining T20I status, the following now applies:

"Have appeared as a player for an Associate team in a Twenty20 International match after 1 July 2018 in either a World T20 (men or women), Global Qualifier (men or women) or Regional Final (men only)".

In other words, these players don't always meet the notability requirements from now on. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 20:54, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't planning to create player pages, but somebody added red links on the 2019 ACC Western Region T20 page which kind of ruins the the look of the page so I created a couple before becoming unsure. The fact that they are T20 International matches made me think that they would be considered good enough for player notability, but I wasn't sure. Question though: Why are most of the Qatar players already created despite not having played in such T20 matches? Some have played in low level World Cricket League matches, which do not have ODI or even just List A status, so in my opinion at least are less notable than full T20I matches.Bs1jac (talk) 21:49, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem. Yes, all players at WCL matches (above Div 6) are deemed notable, and it's been that way for some time (maybe a decade or more). I know it seems a bit odd, but I sort of understand the rationale. The WCL did have a ranking system of sorts, with promotion and relegation. But the T20I matches don't use that same structure. So for example, all the cricketers who've just played for the Maldives would probably not be notable, and would not have played in the WCL at any stage. Most of the Qatar players have, hence why the majority of them already have an article. And then there's cricketers like this guy who didn't play in the WCL, but did play in FC/LA matches a while back in Sri Lanka. Hope that helps! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks again. Yes I kind of see the rationale as well in that with the WCL there was a way to only count team of a certain standard. I believe I read that the WCL is to be discontinued, which would cause the notability criteria going forward to require some adjustment perhaps. To be clear - I had no intention of creating pages for all of these players so I am happy to go along with this! I do think that the tournament itself should be considered notable enough for inclusion though given the fully recognised status of the matches by the ICC. Bs1jac (talk) 10:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Happy to help. Yes, the WCL is gone going forward, but will be replaced by 2019–21 ICC Cricket World Cup League 2 and the 2019–21 ICC Cricket World Cup Challenge League. The latter is for the "twelve teams ranked from 21st to 32nd place in the WCL". I didn't want you to waste your time on creating artices that others would prod or take to AfD. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 10:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Well if you feel the red links ruins the look of the page you can remove them. I have no problem. Just make sure you add the links if you create any of those articles. Human (talk) 14:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for helping to clean up the page in question, I appreciate all of it. I hadn't added the T20I debuts in the match boxes at all, despite wanting to, because I knew most of the pages didn't exist and indeed likely wouldn't pass notability guidelines. I suspect I a lot of the pages will get created in future, particularly for the teams qualified for the Regional Finals.Bs1jac (talk) 14:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

2019 Spain Triangular T20I Series

Hi. I don't know if you've spotted this, but Estonia are listed as "Estonia XI" on both Cricinfo and the ICC site for these matches. So I'm not sure if these fixtures will be T20Is, but rather just (other) T20 matches. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 12:14, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi there. Interesting, and very disappointing/confusing if that is case given that all internationals (between ICC members) are supposed to have T20I status now. I just checked Cricinfo and it looks like it only says Estonia XI for one of the matches, which I am guessing is a mistake (http://www.espncricinfo.com/scores/series/19149/spain-tri-series-2019). EDIT: I just reloaded and now it says XI by all Estonia matches. When you click 'summary' for their matches, it says Estonia (not XI). Match pages state "Spain Triangular T20I series", e.g. http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/19149/game/1175342/estonia-vs-malta-1st-match-spain-tri-series-2019. Bs1jac (talk) 12:36, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

But then also if you filter the matches to just show 'T20I', the matches involving Estonia are not listed. I get the impression that Cricinfo isn't particularly reliable with the 'smaller' nations at the moment.Bs1jac (talk) 12:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, disappointing if they are not T20I matches. The ICC's schedule suggests they aren't T20Is either, with the Spain/Malta matches coloured pink (as per other T20I matches) and all the matches with Estonia in grey. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 13:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

I saw the same on the ICC afterwards. Perhaps Estonia's squad isn't fully qualified to represent Estonia or something like that. By the way I have created templates for the 'player list' pages for all team making their T20I debut in March (Spain, Malta, Philippines, Vanuatu, and now USA after your alerting me to the ICC calendar brought their series against the UAE to my attention), ready to create pages when they have played their first game. If someone else beats me to it so be it, but just so you know I have those in hand. I assume you will likely set up the categories for XXX Twenty20 International Players etc. Looking forward to seeing more team playing recognised matches.Bs1jac (talk) 14:01, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Mind you, the ICC calendar lists Estonia's games as List A - which can't be right (either T20I, regular T20, or 'other') Bs1jac (talk) 14:16, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I'll set the categories up - no probs. I've noticed that the ICC classes all non top-level matches as List A, such as previous matches in the WCL below League 2. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 14:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Cool. List A applies to WCL as those are 50-over matches (or similar); As I'm sure you are aware, List A includes ODIs and othersuch matches without ODI status (domestic, or things like WCL). A T20 match would either be a T20I or T20 (stats for which include T20Is). So strange that the ICC would class it as List A. Cricinfo will likely class it as T20 (or 'other T20' if not even recognised at all) Bs1jac (talk) 15:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

FYI I read on Twitter (couldn't find the actual source) that on further inspection Estonia were not able to name a squad of players that met the official eligibility rules. That would explain why their matches no longer seem to be classed as T20Is. Bs1jac (talk) 20:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Cricinfo listed this tournament before United States cricket team in the United Arab Emirates in 2018–19 which is an actual T20I series and starts before. Human (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by "an actual T20I series" as according to the ICC both are T20I series. Lugnuts just pointed out that the matches involving Estonia do not appear to be listed as having T20I status. Given that all Associate members now have T20I status, it seems surprising. Bs1jac (talk) 15:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

By actual I meant the importance. It has been long confirmed whereas this tournament is in confusion. Human (talk) 16:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Got you. Personally, I only recently became aware of the USA-UAE series. Bs1jac (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello. If you think the name is correct then please move the page Timothy Heath to Tim Heath. Human (talk) 12:41, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

I just noticed this was the name on the Malta Cricket squad announcement. I now see that someone else previously changed this and you changed it back... didn't mean to start reopen a back and forth. Bs1jac (talk) 12:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

T20IS

Hi. Seems like we have a couple busy time ahead. According to ICC calendar, there will be a quadrangular T20I series to be held in Mexico at the last week of April. This be followed by Germany's tour of Belgium to play 3 T20IS and 2 T20IS to be held in Netherlands between Germany and Italy. Human (talk) 16:24, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Indeed! I created the page for the Central American Championship earlier today (with a redirect for Mexico Quadrangular, which the calendar is describing it as), once I found a reference! 2019 Central American Cricket Championship. Working on squads for their initial player list pages too so we have something ready while inevitably waiting for cricinfo to provide stats. Also created pages for the two Germany series a while back. There is also the African T20 qualifier in May... We are keeping on top of them so far between us! Bs1jac (talk) 16:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Cricinfo listed the final of the tournament as a T20I. So if MCC qualifies for final things might be confusing. Almost all cricket articles of Wikipedia uses Cricinfo as the match report. They also have the biggest player stats on across all formats of cricket. So your assumption of Cricinfo is not a good source is incorrect. Human (talk) 09:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: Cricinfo is a great source. I didn't meant to offend. I just meant that in this instance they seem to have completely ignored the MCC matches. One of the references states (rightly or wrongly) that the final will be a T20I if the MCC are not involved. Given that sources clearly indicate these are the Central American Championships (and the seventh edition in fact), and that MCC are the defending champions, it does seem odd that Cricinfo are not going with that. When I created the page, Cricinfo did not yet have an entry for the tournament and still has minimal information. Page was created using information from other sources with more in depth descriptions of the tournament, and later I discovered that Cricinfo was calling it a quadrangular, which was confusing. Let's see what happens if the MCC qualify(!). PS: I noticed that some users had added thing like the umpires to the match templates (as shown on the cricclubs site) and thought that was premature given that the match sections source cricinfo.Bs1jac (talk) 11:04, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: Also all I could find in Cricinfo earlier today in terms of series pages was 'Panama tour of Mexico 2019', 'Belize tour of Mexico 2019' and 'Costa Rica tour of Mexico 2019', almost treating them as three separate series (albeit with match numbers that imply a tournament). I do now see that the scorecards for these matches (for the men anyway) at least now say 'Central American Championships at Naucalpan' rather than 'Mexico Quadrangular T20I' as they did last week.Bs1jac (talk) 13:20, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bs1jac: What I personally think is that Cricinfo is copy pasting whatever there is in the ICC website. This is mainly due to their own correspondents and reporters are not available for covering these matches. And they already listed the final as a T20I. Human (talk) 13:17, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bs1jac: I don't usually edit women's cricket article, thus I have no idea about the cricketers debuting. Seems like the Mexican women's team played T20I before. Can you update the women's matches please with further infos? Human (talk) 15:46, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: Sure. I haven't done much with women's cricket either (I started a few team pages but it became too much work); I know all members gained t20i status some time in 2018, earlier than the men and several teams have played since. Cricinfo will help out once it has the scorecards.

Seems like two of the matches just disappeared suddenly. I won't be coming back to this page for a while. So please update anything if further infos are available. Human (talk) 13:16, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bs1jac. On the back of this, was the third women's match a full WT20I or not? I'm having trouble finding anything to confirm this. First, the Cricinfo scorecard doesn't have a WT20I match number - the second match is no. 622. Secondly, at Cricclubs, this only lists two matches. Third, Cricket Archive (press ESC!) shows two WT20Is and a "IT20" match (no scorecard). And lastly, Crictracker calls it a 2-match series. What's the source for the scorecard of the third match? Thanks! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Hi, that's very interesting. Cricclubs has the scorecard for the third match, as used by A Simple Human. That site doesn't say what is or is not a t20I though. It hadn't crossed my mind that one match might not have full status... hard to understand why it wouldn't have, but yes I see what you mean in cricinfo which only lists the two. These things are not covered well by any media. PS I dont work on women's players lists anymore as there is too much to do with all members having t20i status, but yes it looks like cricinfo are not counting the third match (rightly or wrongly) Bs1jac (talk) 17:11, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

The second (Cricinfo) scorecard also states "Mexico Women led the 2-match series 2-0". I'm guessing it's along the same lines as Peru in 2018, per the note on the WT20I page. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Quite possibly. Which could only be Costa Rica's 'debutant' I think. Not going to be easy to source that. Bs1jac (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

I've gone for the easy sourcing of saying the first two were def. WT20I matches, rather than trying to find a source for a negative! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:49, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm quite confused about the player Harmanjot Singh. He actually has an article and Cricinfo profile. I think it's a mistake from Cricinfo that they included a new player's name despite other sources claiming it is indeed Harmanjot Singh. Human (talk) 15:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I literally just a moment ago contacted Lugnuts about the same thing! Pretty sure it is the same person as the YouTube feed listed as Harmanjot, but referred to him as Rohit in the commentary, so yes, I agree cricinfo have mistakenly added a new player. Mind you they also added a player as scoring 0* even though a wicket fell last ball of the innings, so the new batsmen shouldn't count as having an innings. They may well adjust shortly. PS: Why do we bother adding debuts, player list pages, etc until Cricinfo is up to date. I think between us we have spent most of the day adjusting names! Bs1jac (talk) 15:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

WCL

How sad was that for Canada?! So close, yet so far. Before the tournament started, I predicted that Oman and Namibia would be the two sides to get relegated! Don't ask me for betting tips in the future... Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:56, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: I know! I was calculating NRR when USA started losing wickets and new it was going to be very tight. I was delighted as really wanted Namibia to get ODI status as they have for years been the team playing in WCL championship and WCQ whose matches have not had ODI status, and wanted PNG to get status back as well (home grown players). I kind of wanted Oman and Canada too... so 3 out of 4. I couldn't tell you who I predicted to miss out at the start, but it certainly wasn't Hong Kong. Bs1jac (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

More T20I fun

Hi. Thanks for adding the info about the German squad. This is likely to be the final Danish squad for the Euro fixtures. Here are the squads for the Namibia and Uganda squads for the Africa finals. Hopefully that can help with your sandbox work! If you have links confirming squads for any of the other teams, drop me a note, and I can start preping articles. Thanks again! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:06, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Cheers. I actually prepared the Namibia player list today using a press announcement on Cricket Namibia's site. Ready to publish that one later in the week with the note about it being the squad for their first matches. Cheers for the Uganda and Denmark squads, leave those with me and I can get those drafted in advance. I have actually drafted all of the African lists, but using squads from the previous qualifying stages, so only really good for saving me time later. Will lwt you know if I see announcements PS: I have just found details of a Jersey-Guernsey T20I series at the end of the month and I am working on the article now. Bs1jac (talk) 16:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Superb - thought that there would be other warm-up T20I tournaments! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:19, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: OK, so I have published the page for the Jersey-Guernsey series. Pretty good starter I think. I also have the Namibia and Uganda player lists ready to publish. Looks like the Denmark squad is just a developmental squad for some warm-ups; I would imagine they will have other players returning for the T20I qualifier. Bs1jac (talk) 18:49, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Here is the Nigeria squad if it helps your prep. I now have the player list articles for Namibia, Uganda and Nigeria all ready to publish, and have also drafted Botswana, Ghana, Jersey, Guernsey, Denmark, Italy and Norway based on their recent squads, so they are easy to adapt when squads are announced. Bs1jac (talk) 15:05, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! And in return, I've just found the Kenya squad. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 15:09, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: I went ahead and published the T20 player lists for Namibia, Nigeria and Uganda as I figured it was fine to do so with a confirmed squad. Hopefully these will help whoever adds the debutants to the tournament article, particular where a 'dab' has been required for players who do not currently have an article. So much easier than Belgium/Germany where most players don't have articles and the name formats got confusing. Frustrating that Botswana and Ghana don't appear to be announced anywhere. My sandbox is full of drafted lists for other countries known to be making debuts in 2019 (based on their latest squad or two)! Bs1jac (talk) 14:22, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Good stuff - makes sense with the squads named. Yes, I can't find anything for Bot/Gha either - it's like a state secret! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 14:29, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts:I have received the Ghana squad directly to my Twitter from the @GhanaCricket. See Twitter ref here List of Ghana Twenty20 International cricketers - best I can find so far! Bs1jac (talk) 08:34, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Brilliant - one to go! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:42, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

And finally, Botswana. Phew. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Cheers. I'm sensing some confusion with the Botswana captain. The article in Wiki is Karabo Motlanka. In Cricinfo there are two players with the same birth date Motlanka and Mothlanka. The later is the one listed in the source and in Twitter posts (one showing the name on his shirt), the other is the Wiki article. In my list I will use the name in the ref and direct it to the existing page.Bs1jac (talk) 08:33, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Another classic mis-spelling! The ICC have finally confirmed the squads. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 15:20, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: A small number of others on my lists to keep an eye on. Nigeria's Daniel Ajekun is Ajeku on CI and my list, Vincent Adewoye has names reversed, Ghana's Perera has a different first name on CI (if same person). Have gone with CI for now and can adjust according to their cards. Most match pefectly though. Bs1jac (talk) 15:30, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Batting average

I see you created a bunch of pages for the newly T20Ied teams, including a link to Batting average. This page is now about the general concept of batting average in various sports (see the discussion on the talk page if you need any background), so I think you should link to Batting average (cricket) instead. I had a bot job run recently to change all the baseball and cricket articles to link to the sport specific pages, and now just reviewing the incoming links to the main page to see if any have been added since. Spike 'em (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Hi. Yes apologies for that. I created them all from existing templates which contained this slight error (and have several more in my sandbox drafted for other teams that will be making debuts in the coming weeks). When I published the last couple earlier this month I noticed that you changed these and I did intend to update those in my sandbox but clearly forgot to do so with this batch. I will adjust them going forward Bs1jac (talk) 10:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

In fact, what I had done was correct it in the Key but not in the table headings. All remaining teams in my sandbox have now been updated, and any more that I do will be based on those. Thanks. Bs1jac (talk) 10:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Ta, and no apologies needed. I had a quick look to see if there was a template somewhere in the WP:CRIC project that needed changing just in case; I should have asked directly if there was one you were using, as I'm only searching in main article space. I did notice that the key had the new link, it is so easy to miss things like this! Spike 'em (talk) 10:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I was simply copying code from existing articles (I think I used Nepal, presumably from before you had this fixed), then changing the details, refs etc according to each team. The Key and table headings never need changing, which is why that one thing ended up in all of them. Bs1jac (talk) 10:44, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Rain & more

I usually like rainy weather but it is now ruining cricket everywhere for a couple of days. What's your opinion? Human (talk) 08:04, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: At least they are under way! Bs1jac (talk) 08:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Quite surprising that ICC didn't yet include the 2019 T20 Inter-Insular Cup in their calendar. They are currently being lazy about the associate teams with little or no coverage. Human (talk) 16:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: Frustrating isn't it. I suspect like the Belgium games they will add them at the last minute. At least the player names are more straightforward for these teams. Italy will be fun at the weekend... the players that are not already in Cricinfo could be listed alphabetically by full name or last name, and some will probably be written completely differently to the the reference on the series and player list articles! That player list, squad box and debutants will likely take some editing through the day! Bs1jac (talk) 16:19, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

According to the ICC calendar, a quadrangular T20I series involving hosts Malaysia, Papua New Guinea, Thailand and Maldives are scheduled to take place later in June. I don't know if you have made an article for the series with a different name or not. If so then please give me the name of the article. And yes, they have added the Inter-Insular Cup at last. Human (talk) 13:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: Cheers. Nope, I hadn't seen that one yet, feel free to go ahead and create the article if you like. Or I am happy to do it if you'd prefer. Thankfully it doesn't clash with the European qualifiers. Bs1jac (talk) 14:43, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Since you have created all the other articles, I'll leave this up to you. Anyways, I don't like to create much articles. Human (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: That's fine, I'll have a go at it later if nobody else does so first. Let me know if you find any references for it. Bs1jac (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: FYI I have drafted this article in my Sandbox while travelling, so I can publish once I get home and my laptop. Thanks for spotting it on the calendar. Can't find any references unfortunately though, which could be an issue. Bs1jac (talk) 16:22, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: Done. I noticed here that it is labelled as Quadrangular series 1, and there is another in July, so there may be another article to create later (not sure what we will call it!). Bs1jac (talk) 17:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

You can include both the tournament in the same article. I remember an article for the tour of the Bangladesh cricket in a country twice in the calendar year. The two series were included in the same article. I don't remember it at this moment though (maybe Lugnuts can help). Human (talk) 17:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Never thought an associates match can be that interesting. And that's a world record. Human (talk) 18:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: I genuinely enjoy some of the associate matches... and I am a big lover of both Jersey and Guernsey so particularly intereted in this series. Really hard to tell who will do well at the European qualifier. Probably Germany with their county pros joining them. Bs1jac (talk) 18:14, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm predicting Italy instead of Germany after seeing their recent series. Human (talk) 18:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@A Simple Human: True but Germany have 3 County Pro players joining them. Jersey and Denmark are the highest ranked, and Guernsey are at home. Probably find that Norway win it now! Bs1jac (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	For all the excellent work on the T20I player lists for the ICC Africa T20 tournament. Thanks! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:11, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Ahh thanks! More prepped and ready to go, starting with Guernsey and Jersey next week (once Guernsey confirm their final squad). Bs1jac (talk) 11:24, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

And on to Europe

Morning! Here's the Norway squad. Great work as always building those player lists. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:55, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Superb. I have already drafted in my sandbox based on their last squad, so should be pretty easy to update. I dont plan to publish the European ones until a few days ahead of the tournament (other than Jersey and Guernsey this week). Just waiting to hear back from Guernsey cricket. Italy looked good yesterday but Germany have those county pros joining them for the qualifiers. Bs1jac (talk) 09:21, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Here's all of the confirmed squads! I'll get the Denmark player list sorted out over the next day or two. Bs1jac (talk) 14:48, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Brilliant - thank you! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Inter insular cup

Regarding WT20I match both

| team1 = Guernsey and 

| team2 = Jersey are redirecting to respective men’s team Wikipedia page not to their women’s teamwiki page. please look into the matter. Criclover58 (talk) 07:45, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: @Criclover58: Hi. I didn't create the women's section of the article, and I do not know how to fix those links as they look correct. Lugnuts will probably know. Bs1jac (talk) 07:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

I never noticed that until now! Odd, as the code is correct (crw). Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 07:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)